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EU plans vehicle speed limiters from 2022 - csgmart

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47715415

More unecessary interference from the EU.

I'm due to replace my car in 2021 - suspect it may be my last new one.

EU plans vehicle speed limiters from 2022 - Engineer Andy

Right up there with them doing away with the summer/winter time corrections, and, of course Art 11 and 13, which passed yesterday.

EU plans vehicle speed limiters from 2022 - RichT54

The article mentions there is concern over whether current technology is sufficiently advanced for the system to work effectively:

In particular, many cars already have a forward-facing camera, but there is a question mark over whether the sign-recognition technology is up to scratch.

This is certainly the case with my C-HR. Despite the camera having been recalibrated, it regularly picks up speed limit signs on side roads and slip roads. There is a busy dual carriage way near home with a 70 mph limit and it always catches the 30 mph sign on one of the slip-roads. I think it would be quite dangerous if it could apply the brakes there and suddenly slow down to 30.

EU plans vehicle speed limiters from 2022 - NARU
... it regularly picks up speed limit signs on side roads and slip roads. There is a busy dual carriage way near home with a 70 mph limit and it always catches the 30 mph sign on one of the slip-roads. I think it would be quite dangerous if it could apply the brakes there and suddenly slow down to 30.

On one road I go down, my speed limit camera suddenly come up with '20'. It took me a while to realise it's picking up a bin that's at the roadside with a speed limit type sign on it.

People fed up with drivers speeding past their houses could have a field day with spurious signs!

EU plans vehicle speed limiters from 2022 - Andrew-T

<< On one road I go down, my speed limit camera suddenly come up with '20'. It took me a while to realise it's picking up a bin that's at the roadside with a speed limit type sign on it. People fed up with drivers speeding past their houses could have a field day with spurious signs! >>

That is such a clear invitation to troublemakers that I can't see it getting anywhere :-) Just think what might be done by showing 70 in a 30 area .... or a whole series of different numbers ....

Edited by Andrew-T on 28/03/2019 at 10:59

EU plans vehicle speed limiters from 2022 - FoxyJukebox

My car has a speed limiter and cruise control already-what else do I need?

EU plans vehicle speed limiters from 2022 - daveyjp

This is purely a decision which provides a framework for the advancement of autonomous vehicles. Its nothing to get excited about. It will be 15-20 years before it is in place on all vehicles, by which time full autonomy will be very well advanced.

The clocks adjustment is actually the EU giving away control. Governments can now make their own decision on whether to change clocks from GMT to BST.

EU plans vehicle speed limiters from 2022 - Bromptonaut

This is purely a decision which provides a framework for the advancement of autonomous vehicles. Its nothing to get excited about. It will be 15-20 years before it is in place on all vehicles, by which time full autonomy will be very well advanced.

The clocks adjustment is actually the EU giving away control. Governments can now make their own decision on whether to change clocks from GMT to BST.

You think the Brexiters on here will let facts get in the way........?

Edited by Bromptonaut on 27/03/2019 at 14:25

EU plans vehicle speed limiters from 2022 - Engineer Andy

Er, actually we have to set the clock to GMT or BST, and not change back and forth, so that's not our decision, but the EU Commission's. Fact. Not the EU 'giving control' - as we want to keep the system we currently have - they're telling us to choose either and stick to it, from then on, all year round.

EU plans vehicle speed limiters from 2022 - barney100
Nott as Draconian as it looks, apparently you will only be warned that you are going too fast and not have your speed controlled from afar.
EU plans vehicle speed limiters from 2022 - daveyjp

Something my £100 Satnav already does, hence my complete lack of concern over yesterday's decision.

EU plans vehicle speed limiters from 2022 - catsdad
This technology will make daily driving akin to being on Motorways under average speed cameras. I hate the bunching and selfish lane behaviour these engender when limits are lowered and everyone (most anyway) sticks to a very narrow speed band for fear of the cameras catching a minor excess speed. Even if you sit a smidgin below a 50 limit so that you are not forever checking your speed you get juggernauts harrassing you. For this to be the daily "norm" will make for tense driving.

What also concerns me is the fitting of black boxes as standard which is also part of this legislation. I try to stick to limits but I wouldnt want my car to permanently log my speed. Its too tempting for governments to spot another revenue stream. Remote down loading of black box data and fines through the post would be the next step.

I hope I am wrong but we are already one of the most spied upon "free" nations on earth.
EU plans vehicle speed limiters from 2022 - gordonbennet

Just a warning system is it, that's how these things are always sold, its only advisory, it's an agreement, it's a voluntary code, etc etc.

Wait and see.

EU plans vehicle speed limiters from 2022 - Bolt

Just a warning system is it

I heard its going to be switchable until its proved it works, problem is there are scenarios where it wont be a good idea, like the anti collision system which has been known to operate at the wrong times and can get you into trouble, rather than prevent an accident could cause one!

EU plans vehicle speed limiters from 2022 - dan86

I own a car with autonomous emergency breaking and it seems to work fine but on my lorry its goes off far to quickly especially during tight maneuvers,

EU plans vehicle speed limiters from 2022 - gordonbennet

I own a car with autonomous emergency breaking and it seems to work fine but on my lorry its goes off far to quickly especially during tight maneuvers,

Daf?

EU plans vehicle speed limiters from 2022 - Vitesse6

I remember the experiment in the 1960s when we stayed on BST all year round. The outcry was so huge that the experiment was ended and never repeated. I could never see what all the fuss was about as time is a purely arbitrary concept anyway.

Edited by Vitesse6 on 27/03/2019 at 19:45

EU plans vehicle speed limiters from 2022 - corax

I could never see what all the fuss was about as time is a purely arbitrary concept anyway.

Agreed. I want BST all year. I don't care about lighter mornings, it's going to get lighter at some point in the day, and the lack of an extra hour of light in the afternoon in winter when I'm fully awake and wanting to do things outside really irritates me. Getting used to the change in hours is also annoying, disrupting the body clock.

Edited by corax on 27/03/2019 at 20:14

EU plans vehicle speed limiters from 2022 - madf

I could never see what all the fuss was about as time is a purely arbitrary concept anyway.

Agreed. I want BST all year. I don't care about lighter mornings, it's going to get lighter at some point in the day, and the lack of an extra hour of light in the afternoon in winter when I'm fully awake and wanting to do things outside really irritates me. Getting used to the change in hours is also annoying, disrupting the body clock.

I lived in Scotland then. Aberdeen

Daylight started at 10am: accidents driving to work - and children hit by cars - increased iirc.

It was horrible.

EU plans vehicle speed limiters from 2022 - drd63
I think that was the argument but not backed up by stats. I’d happily have lighter evenings all year round.
EU plans vehicle speed limiters from 2022 - pyruse

The argument against BST all year round is that it's too dark in the mornings in Scotland in the winter.

Wouldn't it be much simpler to change school and working hours in the far north of the UK than to change the clocks for the whole country?

EU plans vehicle speed limiters from 2022 - dan86

I own a car with autonomous emergency breaking and it seems to work fine but on my lorry its goes off far to quickly especially during tight maneuvers,

Daf?

In deed. Not a fan of dafs much prefer Mercedes, scanias and Volvo's but daf is what they brought so daf is what I drive.

I have found when maneuvering if I put the hazard lights on of turns off the AEBS

Edited by dan86 on 27/03/2019 at 20:44

EU plans vehicle speed limiters from 2022 - edlithgow
For this to be the daily "norm" will make for tense driving.

There's still another kind of driving in the UK?

There certainly isn't here on the ROC.

EU plans vehicle speed limiters from 2022 - sammy1

All this compulsory technology is only adding to the already silly prices that manufacturers are asking their customers to pay and how reliable will it prove to be? I have GPS speeds on my dash at present which are good but NOT 100%. There have been occasions when the screen has gone blank so that the car is obviously not picking up the GPS. So if the screen says Omph will I even be able to move the thing! Also what happens when you move from a higher speed zone to a lower one? Will the limiter slow the car or is the onus still on the driver. How will the system work when coasting downhill, will it brake the car adding to your fuel consumption? What happens if a asteroid or a piece of space junk takes out the satellite providing the GPS. Finally if we are all about to become law abiding how is the country going to survive without the fines and speed awareness courses?

EU plans vehicle speed limiters from 2022 - colinh

Seems to be little mention of the other changes:

"MEPs also backed rules to demand "an alcohol interlock installation facilitation", and for cars to induce safety technologies that can detect when drivers are feeling drowsy."