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VED to rise - Doc

Car tax costs are due to go up after it was confirmed in the Budget that another rise in Vehicle and Excise Duty (VED) will take effect from next year.

The little-known plan to steadily hike car tax was included in last year's Autumn statement, which said that VED would increase in line with inflation in April 2018 and April 2019.

Buried in the Budget small print: 'From 1 April 2019 VED rates for cars, vans and motorcycles will increase in line with RPI.'

For most drivers, annual car tax costs will increase by £5. The most significant rise for existing owners is for those with older - high emissions - models, who will be charged up to an additional £15, while new car buyers will face an extra £65 on first-year car tax.

The increase does not apply to low emission vehicles in the first three bands for those cars registered between March 1, 2001 and March 31, 2017

VED to rise - RT

If it's rising in line with inflation, that's a 0% rise in real terms.

Personal Tax Allowance is going up higher that the rate of inflation, that's a real reduction in tax payable.

VED to rise - Doc

Edited by Doc on 05/11/2018 at 10:17

VED to rise - Gerry Sanderson

All together now 1,2 ah ,3

"they say that this government

is doing mighty fine.

They give you thirty shilling (No fuel duty increase)

and take back twenty nine (VED increase)"

dvd

VED to rise - Engineer Andy

Given that last year, Spreasheet Phil stopped all the £10 - £30 VED bands to change all non zero emissions vehicles retrospectively to £140/£145, then anyone with such cars will be paying far more. No-one has any incentive now to buy a car with low emissions, especially as EVs are still way more expensive than ICE engined cars. IMHO he should've just realigned the boundaries for new cars and left the rest as they were or at most put up to a half way figure so they weren't too expensive to tax.

VED to rise - Manatee

£140 is not expensive.

EVs are subidised only to establish a market, not because they are more virtuous. Economics will always apply.

VED to rise - Engineer Andy

£140 is not expensive.

EVs are subidised only to establish a market, not because they are more virtuous. Economics will always apply.

Perhaps, but all those people who shelled out £5k+ more for a PHEV or hybrid (new or second hand) just cost themselves an extra £130 more a year and probably feel cheated. As I said, it's not the money per se (although after 5 years, that's £650, quite a tidy sum), but the incentive to buy them has now gone, so why would someone buy a second hand one when a petrol would be taxed at the same amount and cost potentitally £0000s less?

VED to rise - Manatee

£140 is not expensive.

EVs are subidised only to establish a market, not because they are more virtuous. Economics will always apply.

Perhaps, but all those people who shelled out £5k+ more for a PHEV or hybrid (new or second hand) just cost themselves an extra £130 more a year and probably feel cheated. As I said, it's not the money per se (although after 5 years, that's £650, quite a tidy sum), but the incentive to buy them has now gone, so why would someone buy a second hand one when a petrol would be taxed at the same amount and cost potentitally £0000s less?

If sales drop too much, the 'incentives' will be adjusted. I expect there will be stick and carrot adjustments.

No EV buyer could have supposed that the state could afford to forgo tax on an increasing amount of car use indefinitely? And £140 is a nicely chosen number - not big enough to upset change the economics (which are much more to do with fuel cost) materially, and can be harmonised with the scales for fossil power.

The other future source of tax, given it will be difficult to charge it on electricity which is a fungible commodity, will be road charging which will also apply to EVs, hybrids and fossil cars.

VED to rise - Doc

If it's rising in line with inflation, that's a 0% rise in real terms.

It is only a 0% rise if your income goes up in line with the RPI; mine has not.

RPI rises:

2017 Q4 4.1%

2018 Q1 3.8% Q2 3.5% Q3 3.1%

VED to rise - RT

If it's rising in line with inflation, that's a 0% rise in real terms.

It is only a 0% rise if your income goes up in line with the RPI; mine has not.

RPI rises:

2017 Q4 4.1%

2018 Q1 3.8% Q2 3.5% Q3 3.1%

I thought the government used CPI for things like this - 2.4% for the year ending September 2018 which is used ffrom 1st April 2019.

VED to rise - Doc

If it's rising in line with inflation, that's a 0% rise in real terms.

It is only a 0% rise if your income goes up in line with the RPI; mine has not.

RPI rises:

2017 Q4 4.1%

2018 Q1 3.8% Q2 3.5% Q3 3.1%

I thought the government used CPI for things like this - 2.4% for the year ending September 2018 which is used ffrom 1st April 2019.

From 1 April 2019 VED rates for cars, vans and motorcycles will increase in line with RPI.

The majority of working-age benefits, such as Jobseeker’s Allowance, are unchanged. They are frozen at their 2016–17 levels for 4 years following the Welfare Reform and Work Act 2016.

The old State Pension and new State Pension increase by 2.6% from 6 April 2019

VED to rise - TheGentlemanThug

My VED rising from £195 to £200 isn't going to encourage me to replace my perfectly servicable and reliable car. A one-off payment every year shouldn't be nearly as important as years of financing, but then a lot of people don't consider that.

VED to rise - Big John

A few people complaining about £140 car tax - It should be noted when we had fixed rates the last time we had £140 car tax was 1995/6!

Edited by Big John on 05/11/2018 at 20:44

VED to rise - madf

Relying on Government subsidies reflects an ability to trust politicians - an ability I lost with Harold Wilson and the depreciation of the pound . I also lost the ability to believe their promises so am seldom disappointed.