Funny enough, I’ve just placed a bid on one. A 2010 1.8 petrol Estate
For pitties sake, you can do better than that.
Drove exactly that car in 2010 and it was dreadful then in comparison to other cars we drove (we bought a kia Ceed 1.6 CRDi estate). Hate to think how it would compare to the cars we have had since the Ceed which in truth have made the Ceed appear somewhat uncouth.
The worst feature on what was a poor car was the electric handbrake which was placed in a daft place and worked illogically, was nearly enough to put me off such devices forever.
Lifes too short for buying 8 year old mediocrity.
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I find them bland but comfortable and perfectly acceptable to drive Skidpan. I agree they don’t measure up compared to the lastest models but I’m tired of losing money on cars and want to go back to my old low cost motoring with near zero depreciation which is ultimately the biggest cost we all pay especially as my annual mileage has collapsed to less than 7,500 miles a year, if even.
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I find them bland but comfortable and perfectly acceptable to drive Skidpan. I agree they don’t measure up compared to the lastest models but I’m tired of losing money on cars and want to go back to my old low cost motoring with near zero depreciation which is ultimately the biggest cost we all pay especially as my annual mileage has collapsed to less than 7,500 miles a year, if even.
I agree with your point about having a reliable car for low money. Cars are a money-pit and most folk are too weak-willed to see past the glamorous adverts.
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Funny enough, I’ve just placed a bid on one. A 2010 1.8 petrol Estate which is pretty much the perfect big used family car in my view. Solid, reliable, long lasting and cheap to buy. No more monthly payments for me I hope.
A good car and I hope it serves you well. Don't fall for the silly SUV trap, it's all marketing d*****.
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Funny enough, I’ve just placed a bid on one. A 2010 1.8 petrol Estate which is pretty much the perfect big used family car in my view. Solid, reliable, long lasting and cheap to buy. No more monthly payments for me I hope.
A good car and I hope it serves you well. Don't fall for the silly SUV trap, it's all marketing d*****.
The higher seating position and getting in and out easier is certainly nothing to do with marketing just good old fashioned reality,
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I bought a 65 reg petrol, auto estate in February, now with an additional 7k miles on the clock. Mine is a business edition plus so has a few creature comforts. I find it a quiet, comfortable and relaxing car to drive but with more than adequate acceleration if required.
I have the opportunity to engage with many different vehicles as I am a regular at BCA sourcing cars for a friend in the trade. Despite, or perhaps because of, this experience we largely stick with Toyota despite occasional flips to Volvo and Mercedes amongst others. My criteria are comfort, safety, reliability and economy and I find this a very satisfactory car, especially as I have a superb dealer just down the road. So it’s a once a year service and then fill and forget.
I appreciate the Avensis, and indeed Toyotas generally, are not leading edge in any particular aspect such as design or performance, but considered as a whole I think they add up to a very good even if not ultimately best choice. Overall I think SLO has made a sound choice.r
Edited by MGspannerman on 04/09/2018 at 14:31
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I'm not suprised if the saloon goes, the estate as well as being a much more versatile car also looks a lot neater than the saloon, which Toyota knocked about with their ugly stick at the back end, it's just wrong to look at, and i will not spend my hard earned on something that hurts your eyes.
Lovely car the Avensis, decent engines, the only reason there isn't one our drive is that stupid EPB, i will not have a car with one, despite Toyota's version being as expected more reliable than most despite the manual switch working back to front and being in a stupid spot.
I suspect the new Camry...which has some odd front end treatment it must be said, will have a standard hybrid style foot operated parking brake, at least i hope so.
If Camry has no estate option that is a grave error once again from the maker, a lesson which Hyundai Kia appear to have learned from Sonata/Magentis, both of which would have made fine estates and would have sold well here.
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“only reason there isn't one our drive is that stupid EPB, i will not have a car with one, despite Toyota's version being as expected more reliable than most”
Agree totally. It’s an idiotic thing, a solution to a problem that never existed in the first place. This particular one has had issues with it in the past which have (hopefully) been rectified plus it’s had a recent exhaust and rear calippers along with a service at a reputable local dealer. If I could buy one with nothing other than power steering, central locking and air con I’d be delighted but new car buyers want gadgets. Quality shines through though and at 8yrs old and 70,000 miles it drives no differently from when it was new yet it’s a fraction of the cost... assuming my final offer is accepted. Today’s the day.
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8yrs old and 70,000 miles it drives no differently from when it was new yet it’s a fraction of the cost... assuming my final offer is accepted. Today’s the day.
I hope you get it, i used to load out of Burnaston and these were lovely cars to drive with silky smooth auto boxes if that's your thing, QC is something else there, the very rare time i ever found anything to query about one, seconds later a chap in a white smock from QC would be there wanting to know whjat had happened and the car immediately taken away for rectification work, my colleagues experiences at Honda factory were much the same, if it aint perfect it doesn't leave, you probably know that was not always the case at other makes and i've picked up quite badly damaged brand new cars from one factory (now gone) and they would be rectified by the selling dealer maybe hundreds of miles away, most odd state of affairs.
Those new calipers and exhaust were pricey stuff, hopefully thats those all sorted for the next 10 years.
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I did get it. For all of £4,150 a 2010 Estate with 70k full history, recent exhaust, serviced and MOT’d last month, recent tyres all round and new rear callipers. Near perfect condition inside and out drives without fault. The perfect used family car? No complex gearbox or engine to worry about, a simple chain driven petrol motor and manual box. It’s at least £1,000 less than equivalent dealer cars locally but a bit dearer than some other private sales I could’ve had. Always worth paying a bit more for the better car up front though. I’m happy to be away from valuable cars I worry about leaving on the street and which cost me several hundred quid a month and back to stress free motoring my way. Fingers crossed that it lasts as well as the 2009 169,000 mile example a friend of mine owns.
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I did get it. For all of £4,150 a 2010 Estate with 70k full history, recent exhaust, serviced and MOT’d last month, recent tyres all round and new rear callipers. Near perfect condition inside and out drives without fault. The perfect used family car? No complex gearbox or engine to worry about, a simple chain driven petrol motor and manual box. It’s at least £1,000 less than equivalent dealer cars locally but a bit dearer than some other private sales I could’ve had. Always worth paying a bit more for the better car up front though. I’m happy to be away from valuable cars I worry about leaving on the street and which cost me several hundred quid a month and back to stress free motoring my way. Fingers crossed that it lasts as well as the 2009 169,000 mile example a friend of mine owns.
Can you do me a favour SLO and see if the front passenger seat goes all the way forward for longer loads, whether it flips or goes all the way on the ratchet lever?
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“Can you do me a favour SLO and see if the front passenger seat goes all the way forward for longer loads, whether it flips or goes all the way on the ratchet lever?”
Will when I get hold of it, I agreed to let her use it for two weeks while she finds a replacement which suits me also as CRV doesn’t go back until then.
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I did get it. For all of £4,150 a 2010 Estate with 70k full history, recent exhaust, serviced and MOT’d last month, recent tyres all round and new rear callipers. Near perfect condition inside and out drives without fault. The perfect used family car? No complex gearbox or engine to worry about, a simple chain driven petrol motor and manual box. It’s at least £1,000 less than equivalent dealer cars locally but a bit dearer than some other private sales I could’ve had. Always worth paying a bit more for the better car up front though. I’m happy to be away from valuable cars I worry about leaving on the street and which cost me several hundred quid a month and back to stress free motoring my way. Fingers crossed that it lasts as well as the 2009 169,000 mile example a friend of mine owns.
Well done for stepping off the must-have consumerist bandwagon designed to keep you a pay packet from poverty just to keep up with the other pot-less Joneses. Hope the car serves you well.
A (n ex?) friend of mine ran his family round in a perfectly good Peugeot they saved up and paid for, it never gave them any trouble, then all of a sudden they turned up in a Audi Qsomething. Their paraphrased excuse was “we lost five grand (or whatever) in three years depreciation – for only £450 a month we get a brand new Audi” (can’t remember the exact figures now) I pointed out that they are going to hand over a good five-figure sum in three years, to pay off someone elses' depreciation, basically renting a car with nothing to show for it at the other end - and should he lose his job - he is locked into paying this bill which could easily bankrupt him, putting his home at risk, as he hasn’t any savings to speak of (he had recently borrowed two grand off me to buy a new boiler), whereas in his previous situation he could have flogged his Peugeot cheap to raise a few months’ worth of mortgage repayments while he finds a new job – of course this led to a steaming row and he hasn’t talked to me since. A fool and his money…
Anyway - well done again!
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This particular one has had issues with it in the past which have (hopefully) been rectified plus it’s had a recent exhaust
That's odd, because exhausts seem to last forever. I have an old Car Mechanics mag buyers guide on the Mk2 Avensis, and the main dealer involved in the guide said that they had never sold a back box. Was it damaged?
CVT or manual?
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“That's odd, because exhausts seem to last forever. I have an old Car Mechanics mag buyers guide on the Mk2 Avensis, and the main dealer involved in the guide said that they had never sold a back box. Was it damaged?
CVT or manual?”
You forget where I live. The underside of any car up here on the west coast of Scotland takes a hammering in winter with sleet, snow and salt everywhere. It was just blowing (rusted through) and was replaced rather than patched or done in sections. Paranoid and well to do owner which is great for the next owner.
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Paranoid and well to do owner which is great for the next owner.
Spot on, and one of the reasons i shot 75 miles instantly after the obligatory phone call and bought my current Landcruiser the same morning it went online, it had been traded in for a new motorhome at a motorhome sales centre and my 'well heeled previous owner' alarm bells all sounded at once.
When the right vehicle crops up you have to be quick, same as when the right job presents itself, aint hungy enough to bother to land the job? they'll immediately start to wonder how much enthusiasm you'll have once you've been there several months or years.
Edited by gordonbennet on 04/09/2018 at 20:12
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For some an EPB is/could be a godsend.
I don't understand why so many people dislike Electronic Parking Brakes. I think they're good and free up space in the centre console and as you said useful for less able bodied people. When at home parked up on my stoney driveway I always leave it disengaged and put the autobox in P as the car couldn't roll off anyway even if it was left in N. I've never had any issues with them even back in the 2004-2007 Renault Scenic.
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Absolutely fine, if people require or want an EPB by all means have one.
But the same goes the other way, there's lots of us don't want one, and for some of us, me, don't need or want one so aint having one, and that's fine too.
Edited by gordonbennet on 04/09/2018 at 20:54
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the only reason there isn't one our drive is that stupid EPB, i will not have a car with one, despite Toyota's version being as expected more reliable than most despite the manual switch working back to front and being in a stupid spot.
You are going to struggle in the future as pretty much all new designs have them.I agree that the EPB switch on the Avensis is in an awkward spot but there is a logic to the way that it operates - with pull to release you are less likely to release it by an inadvertent button push.
If Camry has no estate option that is a grave error once again from the maker
There is no market for "stationwagons" in the US which is by far the Camry's main market so not worth the cost of engineering/certification etc.
The Avensis is actually 1 of the better estates as so many of it's competitors no longer have totally flat loadbeds when the rear seat backs are folded down. From the photos the new Auris/Corolla estate continues this flat loadbed tradition.
Edited by Heidfirst on 05/09/2018 at 14:16
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