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Merc e class 250. - No fault accident damaged car you do not want back - ian j roberts

My mate has just had a dustbin lorry drag/crush his newish merc worth about 16k about 8 feet .

Impact was rear passanger corner and the drivers rear wheel was crushed/draged along curb,

that wheel and suspension/links etc are damaged. The damage to suspension bothers me.

The rear bumpers gone and maybe as its a convertable two box section structural members are visible just above the exhausts. The passanger side one appears to be what the car was dragged by. It is no longer square and I can see it has been displaced towards the centre of the car, not much but enough to concern me.

I doubt the insurance company will write it off, is there a way to refuse to take the car back?

Merc e class 250. - No fault accident damaged car you do not want back - oldroverboy.

I suspect with that damage it will be written off. That is serious money to fix.

How new? what spec?

Merc e class 250. - No fault accident damaged car you do not want back - ian j roberts

Thanks for your reply oldroverboy.

its a 2012 250 sport soft top with the agm kit, with only 19000 miles.

Merc e class 250. - No fault accident damaged car you do not want back - oldroverboy.

Thanks for your reply oldroverboy.

its a 2012 250 sport soft top with the agm kit, with only 19000 miles.

on autotrader between 11.500 and 18000... if it not a real amg, just the kit a couple of thousand more. without seeing photos, i'd say a write off.

maybe buy it off insurance if so, but personally, i wouldn't.

Merc e class 250. - No fault accident damaged car you do not want back - Avant

"....250 sport soft top with the agm kit."

I once chaired an AGM and got it done in four minutes. Might have been even faster if it had been held in a Mercedes convertible. :)

Usually insurance companies are keener to write a car off than the owners.

Merc e class 250. - No fault accident damaged car you do not want back - ian j roberts

Thanks again oldroverboy and my apologies Avant, finger trouble.

I am not the owner so am more objective. I am also an engineer and concerned what happens when something big interacts with something small.

My mate does not use that car much, hence the low mileage and in my opinion does not need it.

These combined factors leads me to the solution of not having it back from the insurers.

My mate does not have the sort of connection to this particular car that I have to mine and no doubt many individuals on this forum have for theres.

Hope that explains the spelling mistake and unusual angle of this post.

Merc e class 250. - No fault accident damaged car you do not want back - Simon

Without you posting up a picture of the damage it's hard to say.

As for a choice over whether it gets repaired or not, it's matters very little what the car owner wishes, the insurance will do what they want with it.

Merc e class 250. - No fault accident damaged car you do not want back - ian j roberts

Thank you for your input Simon.

My main aim was to try to find out if there was a way not to accept the car back, not for the damaged to be accessed for costing of repair/ write off.

If it was mine there would always be a nagging doubt that the structural damage/ alinement was not fully corrected.

The car was stressed between the main structural member on the passenger side to the rear drivers side wheel, damaging both.

That loading (by a dustbin lorry) transfered through the back end of the Merc. How many other structural / non structural components have transmitted that load? A load completely different from any normally occuring in driving.

So the insurance company decide to repair, all new components rear drivers corner, replace the rear section of the structural member just above the exhaust and replace bumper/lights and b******* bits. check and tweek it on a jig.

All now seems fine, alinement bang on etc.

That car is not as good as it was, items have been stressed and likely bent that are still on it. Corrosion and fatigue failure is much more likely. I would get shot of it as soon as I got it back.

The point of my post was if you can refuse to accept a car back, an angle to recieve the cash value instead of the car.

Merc e class 250. - No fault accident damaged car you do not want back - gordonbennet

Simple maths might be the answer.

1. if its written off how much is the final settlement going to be.

2. if its repaired and sold immediately how much would it sell for.

work out which is best then try to influence the result if possible, either scenario the car is gone as desired.

for what its worth i wouldn't want a badly damaged vehicle back either.

Edited by gordonbennet on 03/09/2018 at 10:50

Merc e class 250. - No fault accident damaged car you do not want back - Andrew-T

... it matters very little what the car owner wishes, the insurance will do what they want with it.

Insurers will check the market and estimate the cost of buying an identical vehicle. Assessor will estimate the cost of repairing the damage. If A > B they will repair; if not, car is written off. or more accurately bought for salvage. You may choose to buy a written-off car and repair it yourself, but you will only get about two-thirds of the replacement cost.

Merc e class 250. - No fault accident damaged car you do not want back - Brit_in_Germany

The cost of repair needs to include the costs of a hire car. With the costs for hire cars from claims mamangement companies being so high, there is an incentive to write off at an early opportunity, ending the liabilty for car hire costs.

Merc e class 250. - No fault accident damaged car you do not want back - nick62

When you have a car from new and it is written-off at say more than 4 years old, all the love and care you put into keeping it pristine, was a waste of time energy!

They will pay-out no more for a nice one than if it was a shed.

Merc e class 250. - No fault accident damaged car you do not want back - ian j roberts

Thank you for your post gordonbennet,

I'm glad you grasped the question being asked.

Some insurance companies are offering options in the event of a write off, money/similar car/ upgraded car.

I would like the option of a car that has not been dragged down the road by a dustbin lorry.

Prior to the accident the car had not been dragged down the road by a dustbin lorry and I am sure my mate, the owner, would like the insurance company to put him back in the same situation he was in before the accident.

I know this idea is way off what will happen and as many individuals have posted- the insurance company will do want it wants, but just think about it, how SHOULD you be compensated subsequent to a no fault accident?

Having a car back that has had serious accident damage repaired and the pleasure of increased premiums for 5 years is NOT the same situation as you were in before the accident.

Call me idealistic or deluded if you wish, sorry for contemplating how it should be rather than the status quo.

Edited by ian j roberts on 03/09/2018 at 17:57

Merc e class 250. - No fault accident damaged car you do not want back - skidpan

If they insist on repairing it you have no option but to allow them to do it, they are paying after all.

But there is a simple solution. When you get it back you could PX it against another car or sell it to a site like WBAC and have no worries about any comeback. Since the waould ahve been repaired and not written off you would have no requirement to tell any buyer about the accident and the accident would not show on any HPI check any trader would carry out.

Merc e class 250. - No fault accident damaged car you do not want back - Simon

I think this thread is going round in circles.

To put it simply there is no real way to influence whether the car will be written off or repaired. If the insurance chooses to repair the car then 'your mate' can't refuse to have the car back.

Merc e class 250. - No fault accident damaged car you do not want back - ian j roberts

Thank you for your input gentlemen,

Pleased to say the car is written off.

Merc e class 250. - No fault accident damaged car you do not want back - gordonbennet

Excellent news, and thankyou for coming back with the result.