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Toyota RAV4 - Another automatic accident - focussed

www.edp24.co.uk/news/car-crashes-through-tent-at-b...8

Presumably a manual licence holder unacustomed to driving an auto.

Toyota RAV4 - Another automatic accident - colinh

Good to know there are never any accidents with people driving manual gearboxes

Toyota RAV4 - Another automatic accident - nellyjak

Good to know there are never any accidents with people driving manual gearboxes

Precisely...the use of the word "another" makes it sounds as though there are at least 10 such incidents every single day.

Trust me...you don't HAVE to be in an auto transmission car to be an idiot....or careless.

Toyota RAV4 - Another automatic accident - Bromptonaut

www.edp24.co.uk/news/car-crashes-through-tent-at-b...8

Presumably a manual licence holder unacustomed to driving an auto.

The note EDP account reports a note being found on the dash reading

  • Key in ignition
  • Foot on brake
  • Start engine
  • Gear lever to D
  • Foot off brake

Obviously, this suggests exactly what the OP asserts.

Edited by Bromptonaut on 16/07/2018 at 12:50

Toyota RAV4 - Another automatic accident - Cris_on_the_gas

Clearly human error and hope those injured make a speedy recovery.

Made me think if this was a Nissan Leaf with one pedal would this be more likely or less. Any thoughts ?

Edited by Cris_on_the_gas on 16/07/2018 at 13:39

Toyota RAV4 - Another automatic accident - gordonbennet

Doesn't matter what the design is, an incompetent driver can always do their worst no matter what.

However a manual car requires rather more deliberate actions to go off completely out of control, there is something to be said for not going auto if all you have ever driven is manual and you quite obviously (as in this case) have no idea what you are doing, all cars have a brake pedal, autos its usually at least half as wide again as the one on a manual and they still can't find it.

Toyota RAV4 - Another automatic accident - barney100

As an auto driver for many years I find the control of one instinctive. The pedal layout is exremely simple, if you discount left foot braking then your right foot comes off the power and operates the foot brake. This of course means there is no power going to the vehicle and the brake is accordingly operated, an ideal state of affairs. Another auto advantage is that both hands can be on the steering wheel most of the time as your left hand dosen't have to come off to change gears, there is no stalling the engine. A manual driver still has to remove the right foot from the accellerator pedal and operate a smaller footbrake and still has the clutch pedal to think about sometimes. The larger auto brake pedal is surely an advantage. Another benefit is in a queue of up hill stop start traffic as control on an auto is a doddle compared to some manual drivers who kangaroo along. Must burn clutches out quickly. I know some people like the control a manual gives on when you change gear but autos are more relaxing to drive.

Toyota RAV4 - Another automatic accident - badbusdriver

Clearly human error and hope those injured make a speedy recovery.

Made me think if this was a Nissan Leaf with one pedal would this be more likely or less. Any thoughts ?

Thoughts?,

Mine are that you have seen an article headline, not read it, and jumped to an incorrect conclusion!.

The (new) Nissan Leaf has a mode called 'E-pedal', which, when engaged, means that the car will brake when you lift off the throttle, it will slow the car right to a stop. Nissan reckon, after some practice, most drivers will be smoother and more efficient (therefore the car will go further between charges) using the system.

But, it most certainly DOES have a brake pedal too.

Toyota RAV4 - Another automatic accident - Cris_on_the_gas

Clearly human error and hope those injured make a speedy recovery.

Made me think if this was a Nissan Leaf with one pedal would this be more likely or less. Any thoughts ?

Thoughts?,

Mine are that you have seen an article headline, not read it, and jumped to an incorrect conclusion!.

The (new) Nissan Leaf has a mode called 'E-pedal', which, when engaged, means that the car will brake when you lift off the throttle, it will slow the car right to a stop. Nissan reckon, after some practice, most drivers will be smoother and more efficient (therefore the car will go further between charges) using the system.

But, it most certainly DOES have a brake pedal too.

Fair point but for normal driving only one pedal is required. Moving around a village fete would be pretty normal so would the drivers reaction be different in this situation ?