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BMW 1 Series - New Car - What to get? - - BT88

Hi,

Looking to get a second hand BMW 1 series, promised myself after uni I would get one :)

Completely confused as to what I should go for. Live in central Scotland and frankly don't know enough about cars to decide what I should go for. Hoping for advice as to what I should be looking for with the car? diesel or petrol? mileage vs age? etc.

Budget is between £4k -£6k, doing city and motorway commuting etc.

Options I have scouted on Autotrader are:

www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/20180628792...1

www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/20180423582...2

www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/20171126159...3

www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/20180710832...1

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for reading

BMW 1 Series - New Car - What to get? - - badbusdriver

If you must have one, better to get a petrol. But a far better idea would be to get something else entirely, something better, more reliable and cheaper to run.

BMW 1 Series - New Car - What to get? - - nellyjak

If you must have one, better to get a petrol. But a far better idea would be to get something else entirely, something better, more reliable and cheaper to run.

Agree...^^^^...cerainly wouldn't be my choice...but if you have to have one...then go petrol without any doubt..

BMW 1 Series - New Car - What to get? - - sandy56

For your budget stick to petrol. FInd one that has a good service history, if you can. Look for condition and service., but mileage is also important. At this price level you could end up with some big bills so it is a bit of a lottery. Buy the best car you can afford.

I found the 1-series a small car, if that suits you thats fine, I would go for something a bit bigger, even a Focus/Astra is more practical. Some good Japanese or Korean cars will be in your budget. A Toyota Auris 1.4/1.6 petrol is in your budget, 2012, or a VX Astra 1.4 or 1.6i 2013. I would stick with the 1.6 engine, as a 1.4 engine can struggle and the petrol savings are not huge. The biggest MPG difference is how you drive it.

If you are not familar buying cars then take along a friend or family member who is more knowledgeable, and help avoid buying a money pit. Good Luck.

BMW 1 Series - New Car - What to get? - - badbusdriver

In practice the 1 series has no more interior space than a Fiesta or Polo, but i guess that is not what draws folk to them!. But for the OP, you might want to have a read through this before ploughing your hard earned cash into something like a 1 series.

www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/bmw/1-series-e81e87-...d

There are far, far better choices if you want something enjoyable to drive AND reliable.

BMW 1 Series - New Car - What to get? - - BT88

Thanks for the responses. Definitely given me some thinking to do! I guess I am being a bit of a badge snob and was working under the assumption that you couldn't really go wrong with a BMW. Although I really know sweet FA about cars.

Would a Astra/Focus/Kia ceed/Golf/A3 be considered significantly better? Would a 3 series be a stupid option to consider? Cheers

BMW 1 Series - New Car - What to get? - - sandy56

BMW make some very good cars, I have one.

At your budget you are buying an older car so a good service history becomes important. A newer Japanese car would be a more sensible buy but people buy with their heart, not just their head.

The ASTRA/ Focus etc are not better cars, but they are good cars, provided they have been properly maintained, as with ALL cars. A nice 3 series can be a good buy but again you are buying an older car and there is risks associated with that. BMW repair costs can be high.

Ford and Toyota car engineering is very good, as is BMW.

At the end of the day you have to make a decision, so pick a few cars you like, and do some research on them, before you buy!

This site is very useful and see also the owners forums for other cars.

BMW 1 Series - New Car - What to get? - - SLO76
On such a limited budget I’d forget anything complex or anything with a prestige badge. BMW’s are prone to loads of problems as they age so don’t fall for the hype, these really aren’t a wise buy at this money.

A Ford Focus with the robust Yamaha designed 1.6 petrol is a great used buy. Fun to drive, reliable, practical and cheap to buy and maintain. Don’t touch the troublesome 1.0 Ecoboost or 1.6 TDCi Diesel however.

Others to consider would be...

Mazda 3 1.6 petrol (same assets as the Focus as it’s based on one but with chain driven engine and slightly dated looks. Again avoid the diesels)

Toyota Auris 1.6 petrol (bit bland)

Volvo S40/V50 1.6/1.8 petrol (also based on the Focus but a bit classier. No diesels again at this money)

Suzuki Swift Sport (if you can live with the size these are a hoot and very robust)

The Kia Cee’d is dull but worthy but they rot badly in the subframes and front crossmember so check carefully even on quite young examples. The diesels are ok and the firm were late in fitting DPF’s with some 2011 cars making it here without it. Check physically for it before considering a diesel as these will cause trouble at the age you’re talking about. The petrol 1.6 is a bit flat. It’ll also be worthless when you come to sell.

The Astra is a bit of a bargain and in 1.6 petrol form it’ll run and run. A bit dull but well made and will last. The 1.3, 1.6, 1.9 and 2.0 diesels are Fiat designs and a heap of trouble as they age so don’t bother but the 1.7 diesel is a very robust Isuzu unit that can do interstellar mileages if looked after. Again they almost certainly will have a DPF.

Another worthy you missed out and is probably the most robust of the lot is the Honda Civic. The 1.8 VTEC petrol is bombproof, has plenty of go (if you let it rev) and will do over 40mpg with ease. The 2.2 CTDi diesel also didn’t have a DPF until the next gen DTEC engine appeared in 2012 so all pre 2012 diesels won’t have one but in typical turbo diesel fashion they do suffer from a number of common issues as they age so I’d stick with petrol again. At this money I’d favour the Civic but the Focus would also be up there.

Edited by SLO76 on 12/07/2018 at 17:43

BMW 1 Series - New Car - What to get? - - nellyjak

I guess I am being a bit of a badge snob and was working under the assumption that you couldn't really go wrong with a BMW. Although I really know sweet FA about cars.

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Badge snobbery is fine if that's your thing...but can be VERY expensive...and ultimately disappointing.!!!

I'd buy Japanese and get your self a much better chance of reliability and less potential hassle and cost.

BMW 1 Series - New Car - What to get? - - TheGentlemanThug

I'll echo the sentiment that a BMW at your budget is just asking for trouble. Stick to naturally-aspirated Japanese petrol engines.

BMW 1 Series - New Car - What to get? - - Avant

A BMW that's been well looked after and regularly serviced will last a long time: but one that hasn't can be a money-pit. You have to take a chance on how previous owners drove a car, but you should of course look for one with a full service history, ideally serviced at a BMW dealer or a specialist.

Unless you're going to do a very high mileage, go for petrol rather than diesel: ageing diesels can go very expensively wrong. Unfortunately when cars of the age you're buying were new, people were being encouraged to buy diesels, so petrols are harder to find.

There are of course many alternatives to a 1-series. Japanese cars like Toyotas, Hondas and and Mazdas are less prestigious but give you a better chance of getting a good one. But that probably isn't what you want.

Probably best to buy from a dealer, as you have more in the way of legal consumer protection. Ideally look for a car that's done between 6,000 and 12,000 miles a year - not too low and not too high. Generally the fewer owners the better: someone who has kept the car for several years will probably have liked it.

Finally, look up the 1-series in the car-by-car reviews on this site, and see what to look out for in particular.

BMW 1 Series - New Car - What to get? - - BT88

Thanks once again for the comprehensive replies. Think I needed the reality check :) to engage my brain.

I've found a honda civic I-VTEC 1.8 TYPE S GT ('09 50k miles, FSH) for just over 5k so I'm going to have a look at that. Thoughts?

I'll shelf my BMW plans until I have a bigger budget.

BMW 1 Series - New Car - What to get? - - TheGentlemanThug

Do you have a link? The engine should be trouble-free but some suspension work may be required.

The ride can be hard and the engine needs to be worked quite hard to get the best out of it, but it's a good car besides.

BMW 1 Series - New Car - What to get? - - SLO76
“I've found a honda civic I-VTEC 1.8 TYPE S GT ('09 50k miles, FSH) for just over 5k so I'm going to have a look at that. Thoughts?”

Should be fine. Clutches are a bit weak on them (more so on the diesels) so check it isn’t slipping and the biting point isn’t too high up. Feel for judder when it’s cold also but most do it a bit which is fine as long as it goes away after the first couple of times it’s used. Other than that it’s just the usual used car stuff.

Edited by SLO76 on 13/07/2018 at 13:17

BMW 1 Series - New Car - What to get? - - sandy56

Re the Honda Civic

My son runs one, for the last three years, same age. He has had no real faults, just the usual service items.

CHeck it out, drive it and see what you think.

Buy it because you like it, It is your car after all.