Hi,
Can anyone help me please.
I have a Clio 98 'R' reg 1.2 which keeps cutting out on me with no indication that its about to.It will cut out on me while i am in motion or at a stand still.Once it has cut out i cant start the car immidiately,it takes anywhere between 15 mins to 4hrs to start agian.The engine turns over OK and ive fitted a new battery & plugs.After reading one of the other reports on Clio starting problems it was suuggested that the (CTS) should be changed,i did this as it was a cheap option,but still have the problem.Even popping down to my local shops which is only 5 mins away,i know that when i get back into my car it probably will not start.My travelling time every day is only 15-20 mins (to & from work).Starting the car in the mornings is no problem,whatever the weather.
Please Help.
GN.
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Could be the flywheel sensor failing when it gets hot and recovering when it cools down.However many other faults could cause the problem.In a way you are fortunate in that there is a good 'window' of time to test it during failure mode.There may be some clues in fault codes stored by the engine management system.
David Davies (Tune-Up Raglan)
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Probably not going to be much help but my '93 1.2 used to stall for no reason when idling stationary, it was often just after I'd stopped. I knew when it was about to go as I could feel the accelerator pedal move back against my foot (ie towards me). I think it also stalled occassionally if I pressed the brake or clutch when idling. Would take a bit to restart it but never more than a few turn-overs. Never knew what it was caused by, engine 'dis'management I suppose!! Have since sold the car.
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Not sure if these could be the same problems, but worth mentioning anyway:
My girlfriend and I both had '92 Clios - a 1.4 and a 1.2.
Both suffered from intermittent high idle speeds. I mentioned it to the Renault parts guy once and straight away he produced this little inline box (about matchbox size) that plugged into the cable going to the injector housing. Cost about £20 and cured the problem instantly. Got home, tried it in the other car and fixed that one too, so bought another. Given how quickly the parts guy reacted, it must have been a known problem - presumably noise on the injector signal lines or something like that.
The 1.2 also used to cut out when stopping at junctions, and the idle was very slow. There's a little servo motor that constantly adjusts the throttle opening at idle, to keep the idle speed constant. This had broken. Normally when idling, you could look under the air filter housing and see the throttle twitching back and forth slightly, but it had stopped doing this.
Usually when you turned the ignition off, this little motor would retract to shut the throttle - which is why the accelerator pedal moves up slightly shortly after switching off. Instead of doing this, the motor just buzzed for several minutes....
Not sure if these would apply to later cars, but thought I might as well chip in....
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I have a 97 Pug 106 that is exibiting the same problem of cutting out at junctions, lights etc, not every time but fairly regularly.
Forgive my technical (lacl of) knowledge but is the \'little servo motor\' you speak about the same thing as an Idle valve (which is also called a stepper motor?)
cheers,
Andy
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The "matchbox" is an in-line modifcation fitted between the stepper motor and the normal harness connection. I believe it is simply a resistance block to stabalise the signal on the throttle-closed switch which is part of the stepper motor assembly. Have seen it on many Renaults, also some Volvos with same system. However, it does not overcome a basically faulty unit, as I have still had to replace several which already had the mod fitted.
Regards, Adam
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Apologies to Adam Going,i think i may have sent this message to you twice.
Thanks for all your replies,
Can i just update my problem with the Clio.
I havent driven the Clio for 2 days now and upon starting it in the morning,it wouldnt start, so it cant be overheating.Also the idle speed seems ok and the accelerator pedal doesnt appear to move when stalling.I have noticed that when its about to cut out (while in motion)if i blip the accelerator its does nothing but if i drop down a gear it seems to (kick start) the car.Could any of the above mentioned ideas still apply or has this shed a little more light to my problem.Im not very mechanically minded but could there be a blockage in something,petrol filter? etc or am i clutching at straws?
I really dont want to take it to Reanault,as i dont want to see the chaps face light up with ££££££ signs in his eyes.
GN.
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I fully appreciate your reluctance to offer an open wallet to the dealer, but it does sound as though you need some expert diagnostic assistance here. Look in your local Yellow Pages under "Car Engine Tuning" or "Engine Tuning" to find an independant expert, or better still ask among friends / work colleagues for a recommendation. Don't expect skills learnt over many years to be as cheap as chips, but if you contact a good bloke / company they should be fair with you.
If you let us know whereabouts you are I may be able to make a recommendation.
Regards, Adam
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I'd reccomend Citronome, Derby for you, If its not too far from you?
Andy
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I live in Northampton and would appreciate a recommendation if you can as i feel Derby is a little too far,and i probably wouldnt get there (if you know what i mean).
GN.
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