The population of Wales is just over 3million. Trying to do things differently from the rest of the UK just does not work ie devolution. Just another talking shop costing the

English

tax payer millions

to provide the absurd incomprehensible (even to most of the Welsh) signage.

How much does multilingual signage really cost?

Welsh spellings for places have been in use for 40+years. Only a handful have, like Holyhead (Caergybi) or Swansea (Abertawe), completely different names and they're all on one line seperated by a slash or brackets. Extra cost a few millilitres of paint.

Translations of instructions like Slow Now (Arafach Nawr) are completely standard and again cost is just paint and metal.

Same with Gealic placenames in Scotland.

The initial tread from beufighter is only 5 words long from what I see on this thread, it is only gibbo that makes it clear that it is about pollution and 50mph limits on congested roads in Wales presumably at peak times? I live in Casnewydd do not speak Welsh and have never had a problem navigating this beautiful place. To suggest that people have avoided coming to Wales because of the policies of a long gone chief constable or the road markings or sign posting would mean that an awful lot of the UK are missing out on a welcome. Brumstrum legacy extends all over the UK as I suspect the 50mph policy will follow to the rest of the UK. If anyone gets lost Casnewydd is Newport and is clearly signposted although the signs need to be twice the size to accommodate both languages.

yes 50mph is indeed optimistic around Newport in the rush hour and the crazy thing is the Welsh government want to build another motorway around the town effectively making Newport an island surrounded by polluting vehilcles, something which it is legislating to curb.

<< It is around Cardiff as well ... >>

I don't visit Cardiff as much as I used to, but the last time I did, the M4/48 was bunged up at the A470 junction by traffic queuing to get off. Road works not far south from this junction were responsible. IIRC it took about half an hour to travel one mile on that occasion. So the capacity of the urban roads is the limitation, not the motorway itself. It follows that building another one may only help if it is a true bypass - i.e. not connected to the urban system ?

I wonder if high levels of pollution in Sheffield are more to do with emissions in the city than with the M1, which is to the east, downwind in the prevailing westerly wind.

The response of the authorities to impose lower speed limits on the M1 might have more to do with the zero cost of implementation than its likely effectiveness.