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Volkswagen Golf V - New to VW Advice needed Please - Tanglewood

Hi,

Its time to trade in and im looking for something fun but also something for the family!

I do as much research as I can but specific help is always good if possible. I read good I read bad!

I dont do many long journeys, maybe 4 - 6 30minute journeys for work per week and some general commuting locally. I did want to try my first ever diesel car but maybe its not worth it with the driving I do (or dont do I guess)

I have a small budget of arund 4k (not much I know) But found a nice MK5 1.4 TSI GT Sport.

www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/20180110261...2

Better than my old car for MPG and road tax and from reviews I good all rounder?

However, timing belts etc seem to be an issue and the dealer doesnt know if its been done or not. Ive checked the MOT of past and nothing has cropped up.

Any advice would be well received and appreciated for this newbie, hopefull owner.

Cheers

:)

Volkswagen Golf V - New to VW Advice needed Please - skidpan

Any advice would be well received and appreciated for this newbie, hopefull owner.

Runaway very fast. Its the twin charger engine which probably has more potential to be a money pit than any other.

Volkswagen Golf V - New to VW Advice needed Please - Tanglewood

Any recommendations of a better/similar Mk5?

Volkswagen Golf V - New to VW Advice needed Please - skidpan

Any recommendations of a better/similar Mk5?

I love the TSi engines, we have had 2 and the wife will be getting one soon. But these are the newer belt drive motors that I have yet to read about anyone having issues with.

Would I buy a 10 year old car with a history of cam chain issues, definitely not.

Problem is there is very little out there that gives anywhere near the drivability/economy of the TSI engine.

The only car I would suggest as an alternative would be a Focus fitted with the 1.8 or 2.0 petrol Duratec engines. Not turbocharged but decent to drive and reliable. Way better than most of the alternatives. Avoid the Zetec S which has rubber band tyres and sports suspension. A plain Zetec or Titanium is much better.

Volkswagen Golf V - New to VW Advice needed Please - Tanglewood

Thanks appreciate the feedback. The TSI isnt a total bust but definitely a gamble! It would be better if I knew if it had been replaced or not! Anyway cheers.

Volkswagen Golf V - New to VW Advice needed Please - SLO76
I agree with Skidpan, the later belt driven TSi motors are excellent but this early chain driven twin charger motor was a bad one from the off with most now long dead from engine failure. At this sort of money I’d keep it simple and avoid diesel or turbo.

The Mk II Focus with the chain driven 1.8 Mazda petrol is a brilliant choice. Great to drive, practical and very robust. Here’s one you that has potential. Auto Trader:

www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/20180305427...0
Volkswagen Golf V - New to VW Advice needed Please - Engineer Andy

Better than my old car for MPG and road tax and from reviews I good all rounder?

However, timing belts etc seem to be an issue and the dealer doesnt know if its been done or not. Ive checked the MOT of past and nothing has cropped up.

Any advice would be well received and appreciated for this newbie, hopefull owner.

Cheers

:)

What's your old car? I would be more concerned with reliability than VED as one is a fixed cost, the other is certainly not if you buy a duffer. All too often people buy a car that looks brilliant on paper (especially as regards performance and/or mpg), such as turbo diesels and certain turbo-petrol engined cars, but you'll end up shelling out far more than what you gain in using less fuel if the diesel particulate filter (DPF) needs regularly cleaning or replaced, or if the trubo or other engine related major part fails as they've been doing on the older 1.0 petrol Ford Ecoboost engine.

If you're using it for the school run as well as work, I'd want to get a newer/more reliable car than just one that gave great performance (you'd be tearing your hair out with an unreliable one [like the twin charger 1.4TSi] if it kep failing on you at the most inconvenient times).

I would've suggested a mk2 Mazda3 1.6 petrol as a very nice handling and reliable car, but something in your post leads me to believe you're looking for a bit more oomh - shame really as its a fine car otherwise. Similarly with its bigger (taller) brother the Mazda5 with the same 1.8 petrol engine as in the Focus (its a bit bigger/higher sided and thus won't be as quick, but still handles very well and has the benefit from the sliding doors for rear passengers).

Both those Mazdas have a 2.0 petrol version (all of there petrol engines are non-turbos so aren't as peppy as the VAG TSi engines [the newer belt-driven turbo-only ones skidpan refers to - sadly your budget doesn't stretch to one of those]) but I don't know much about the variant used in the cars after about 2009 - the version in the mk1 Mazda3 gave decent performance but was not so good on the mpg (and thus VED) front. If you do happen to consider a Mazda, STAY AWAY from the diesel engined cars - they are (in my and lots of other people's opinion) very unreliable and could cost a fortune to put right if something goes pop.

SLO can correct me about this, but I think the Mazda 1.8 petrol engine in the 5 and Ford Focus is a chain cam engine, as is the Mazda 2.0 and 1.6 petrol engines, so as long as they've been well maintained as per the service schedule with the correct grade of oil, then they should be in good nick.

My (now 12 old) Mazda3 mk with the 1.6 petrol engine is still as sweet as on day 1 as a result of this - it actually performs better than the mk2 as its lighter and hasn't had an engine remap, which was done to reduce the VED group from H (VED £220pa) to F (VED £150pa). The 1.8 engine in the 5 (VED group I - £240) and Focus (VED group H - £220pa) isn't much different to the Mazda3; the 2.0 petrol in the 5 attracts a VED group J (£280pa). This might seem high compared to much newer cars that attract a £30 VED rate, but they are unfortunately well out of your price range, or diesels that could go wrong in a very expensive way.

Given how many Focuses are about, you'll more likely get a good selection and a better price than the Mazdas and will get better performance, but they are in my view worth a look. Whatever you narrow your list to (don't rush BTW - there's always plenty of decent cars out there), if your not mechanically minded, bring along someone who is, and who can see through the sales patois, and spot both good and bad cars and help negotiate the best (realistic) deal.

Best of luck.

Volkswagen Golf V - New to VW Advice needed Please - Tanglewood

Hey thanks for the reply. A lot to think about. My last car was a BMW x3. Well... Still is at the minute. I'll have a look around. Cheers

Volkswagen Golf V - New to VW Advice needed Please - Engineer Andy

Hey thanks for the reply. A lot to think about. My last car was a BMW x3. Well... Still is at the minute. I'll have a look around. Cheers

Is your X3 unreliable? If not, you need to consider that buying another car that potentially has had several years, owners and miles under its belt, much of which you know nothing about, even with a full service history (FSH) - for example, it could've been used for lots of short journeys or laid up for ages. This uncertainty grows as the car gets older (not so bad if its had one owner, a main dealer FSH, especially if you know or can trust the seller), and thus the chances of a replacement car having an expensive problem rises accordingly.

Often, if you've had little/no problems with your current car and its suitable for the usage going forward (e.g. diesel with a DPF being used on regular longer journeys in fast flowing traffic, petrol engined cars otherwise [towing aside]), then often its best to keep your current car until:

a) you can save up for a newer second hand one (or a brand new one) that is potentially more reliable over the longer term, as your existing car will not depreciate much and thus the extra cost of fuel/VED will be minor compared to a big failure on a replacement;

b) potentially expensive reliability issues (not just ordinary wear and tear items) start appearing, meaning you could get a scrappage deal or simple scrap the (now very old) car (as its worth buttons only) and get a new/newer second hand one.

I'm currently following this method for my 12yo Mazda3 - I've owned it since new, and as its had relatively little issues over the years and I've kept it well maintained, I'm going to run it until something really expensive/terminal goes wrong with it (i.e. not cost effective to fix), putting up with the higher VED (£220) and about 10-20% lower mpg than an equivalent new model (make dependent, not that much as I do low mileage at present) because the cost of buying a new car would be huge (depreciation - mine does at about £100 - £200pa rather than in the £000s) or even a second hand car (complete history not known).

Worth considering IF your current car is reliable, but I'd have a look at the Reviews section for your X3, especially under the 'Good and Bad' and the owners reviews for peotential expensive issues that your car may be 'due', whether because of its age, engine type (especially if its a diesel with a DPF) or that you've just been lucky thus far (luck obviously can run out, although with cars issues can be mitigated by good servicing, taking them on regular longer runs on fast flowing roads [any car, not just diesels] and using high grade fuels [especially if the car's used on short runs a lot])

www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/bmw#used

Not sure which X3 you have (though I'm guessing the older model of the two), so choose from the list on the above link. Below are the owners' reviews - just use the top drop down list by manufacturer and follow the list/links to the specific model you own (note that all X3s of that era will be on the same list - petrols, diesels, different specs, so just pick the closest ones to yours, particularly engine related):

www.honestjohn.co.uk/owner-reviews/

Sadly only 1 owner review for the older X3, many more for the newer one, but the engines are almost certainly different. Try other sites and BMW owners clubs for similar owners' reviews and lists of problems - at least then you'll have a more informed decision as to whether its worth you even changing the car at all - it may be well worth changing it, it may be not.