""Qtr Panel nsr; Poor Previous Repair; Rippled UpTo 30% & Bumper Front; Dented; With Paint Damage...." And 14,000 miles in 3 years.
I'm getting a picture of an elderly owner, 80-in-the-shade, always driven big cars for 50 years, using the car for short trips, with a hands-on approach to parking in the supermarket car park. Had it repaired by a back-street cowboy so as not to have to tell their insurer.
Unless you can get information that that's not the case, the low mileage is possibly more of a risk than the body damage.
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Could be an easily repareable bargain, or it could be a moneypit.
Without a careful examination by someone who knows both exactly what they are doing and looking for its anyone guess.
Its a desirable high end low mileage car. If the bodywork was a cheap and easy fix I would expect it would have been snapped up within the trade.
I am getting a picture of a trade in that is hiding something major.
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I am getting a picture of a trade in that is hiding something major.
It is a Leaseplan disposal.
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""Qtr Panel nsr; Poor Previous Repair; Rippled UpTo 30% & Bumper Front; Dented; With Paint Damage...." And 14,000 miles in 3 years.
I'm getting a picture of an elderly owner, 80-in-the-shade, always driven big cars for 50 years, using the car for short trips, with a hands-on approach to parking in the supermarket car park. Had it repaired by a back-street cowboy so as not to have to tell their insurer.
Unless you can get information that that's not the case, the low mileage is possibly more of a risk than the body damage.
Since when do 80 year olds get cars from Leaseplan? More likely a company perk awarded to a Director who never has to drive anywhere so it sits at home and is used by wife/husband for shopping and picking the kids up hence low miles with dings.
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So leased cars are never neglected and never develop issues??,.............really?
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Each to their own, but I just don't understand the mentality of the OP. Taking a huge risk buying a very complex car like this on the cheap with potentially dubious history, just to get all the bells and whistles?. Surely it would be better to to get a lower spec (or older) car with no damage and full history?.
Hey ho!
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Each to their own, but I just don't understand the mentality of the OP. Taking a huge risk buying a very complex car like this on the cheap with potentially dubious history, just to get all the bells and whistles?. Surely it would be better to to get a lower spec (or older) car with no damage and full history?.
Hey ho!
It is a 14k mile car from a large multinational company so I'm not sure the history is that "dubious".
Obviously it comes with no warranty and any such car is some sort of "risk" but it isn't really particulaly dubious in terms of where it's been or who has owned it.
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Each to their own, but I just don't understand the mentality of the OP. Taking a huge risk buying a very complex car like this on the cheap with potentially dubious history, just to get all the bells and whistles?. Surely it would be better to to get a lower spec (or older) car with no damage and full history?.
Hey ho!
It is a 14k mile car from a large multinational company so I'm not sure the history is that "dubious".
Obviously it comes with no warranty and any such car is some sort of "risk" but it isn't really particulaly dubious in terms of where it's been or who has owned it.
The OP wants to know exactly what is meant by 'rippled' on a panel, there is no explanation for this on the auctions website or listing. Other forum members rightly suggest that the car has probably been in an accident of some kind. Other forum members have also pointed out that if the damage is minor or superficial, i.e, not hiding something serious, why would it not be repaired properly (which, were the damage minor or superficial, not cost that much) then retailed.
Maybe i am just overly cautious, but this suggests a potentially dubious history me.
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my thoughts exactement PD
Edited by urgurinder on 14/11/2017 at 09:50
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Each to their own, but I just don't understand the mentality of the OP. Taking a huge risk buying a very complex car like this on the cheap with potentially dubious history, just to get all the bells and whistles?. Surely it would be better to to get a lower spec (or older) car with no damage and full history?.
Hey ho!
Perhaps they've got 'German car syndrome', i.e. thinking having a germanic marque parked on their driveway will increase their cache in their circle of friends and colleagues, even though they may not be able to afford to run it when a big repair bill comes their way...I've never liked 'status cars'. I'm sure some dealer or repair shop will be loving it though - more business their way when the inevitable major failure occurs after maintenance is scrimped on...
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Each to their own, but I just don't understand the mentality of the OP. Taking a huge risk buying a very complex car like this on the cheap with potentially dubious history, just to get all the bells and whistles?. Surely it would be better to to get a lower spec (or older) car with no damage and full history?.
Hey ho!
Perhaps they've got 'German car syndrome', i.e. thinking having a germanic marque parked on their driveway will increase their cache in their circle of friends and colleagues, even though they may not be able to afford to run it when a big repair bill comes their way...I've never liked 'status cars'. I'm sure some dealer or repair shop will be loving it though - more business their way when the inevitable major failure occurs after maintenance is scrimped on...
You probably have a very good point Andy, i'm sure that is a factor, but not all. The OP seems desperate to get this car at whatever risk simply because of the spec. This is from one post:
here arent many used audi a6s with all the bells and whistles but this one has.. the option list alone can add 30% to the new car's bill... thats the only reason really i'm considering it..
And this is from his next:
and with loads of bells and whistles (adaptive cruise control, audi lane assist, parking camera sensors etc etc)
So it isn't just to get an Audi A6. But it does certainly smack of 'being able to show off' all these wonderful (while they are working) gadgets!
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Those keen to have a "German" car should be aware that Audis, Mercs and some VWs are built in Poland, Argentina, South Africa, Mexico etc., so may be German designed but not originating from that country. Built wherever labour is cheap.
(Same globalisation applies to most other brands, of course, Uk built Hondas, Toyotas, Nissans for instance)
Edited by galileo on 13/11/2017 at 17:20
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So it isn't just to get an Audi A6. But it does certainly smack of 'being able to show off' all these wonderful (while they are working) gadgets!
Well, maybe, but it is his money and if he wants to have a nice car with some toys who is to say he shouldn't? We'll all be dead very, very soon in the grand scheme of things...
Whilst I will openly admit I am not a big fan of some of the German manufacturers and VAG cars leave me mostly cold you can take things too far and inverse snobbery against some marques is just as bad as over enthusiasm for them.
It's his money and if he wants this particular car why not? Just look at it very carefully before bidding to ascertain whether it is a decent car which has had a minor repair or a dog.
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what a balanced view of things PD and every post helpful..
so i didnt get the car yesterday as it went much closer to the high street prices including the private buyers fee.. i've found one car with the requisite options on the used market and if i can get it within 5% of the auction's value and with a year's warranty thrown in then i know i'll have paid a decent price for the car :)
car by the way was spotless, hence why it went higher than i expected.. i coud neither spot nor feel any ripples..
Thanks again for the help.. i'm in a better position evaluating & valuing the car than i was at the start of the post :)
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car by the way was spotless, hence why it went higher than i expected.. i coud neither spot nor feel any ripples..
Auction reports can be misleading at times. I've seen many a horrible Grade 1 or 2 car and some quite decent Grade 5s. It's like when people advise someone a car is "OK" because the MOT history is good or rubbish because it failed on 6 items in 2012. It is madness lazy car buying - all this sort of paper info only adds info and background and can help rule out some without looking at them but it is only ever extra info which has to be read in context.
There is only one way to really judge a car and you still have to do it the old fashioned getting bored, wasting time and standing in the cold way. There is no short cut I'm afraid.
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It's like when people advise someone a car is "OK" because the MOT history is good or rubbish because it failed on 6 items in 2012. It is madness lazy car buying - all this sort of paper info only adds info and background and can help rule out some without looking at them but it is only ever extra info which has to be read in context.
There is only one way to really judge a car and you still have to do it the old fashioned getting bored, wasting time and standing in the cold way. There is no short cut I'm afraid.
Wise words I think. To which I would only add, do not ignore any suspicions or reservations you may have - either find another, or get to the bottom of it.
A pal of mine bought an MX-5 a few months ago, the main question mark being the fact that the rear sills/wheel arches had clearly just been repaired, with really no way of knowing whether it had been done properly or bodged, so he took a chance. It drives really well, and is mechanically very good, Turns out it is a serious ruster and the rear arches are already bubbling. Fortunately not too much money involved in that purchase, but sorting it out as much as it sensibly can be sorted will mean it will have cost the price of a nice one - and it will still not be as good.
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do not ignore any suspicions or reservations you may have - either find another, or get to the bottom of it.
Noted Manatee... i'm feeling a bit out of comfort zone here so reminders like this help to nail the basics, thanks :)
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There is only one way to really judge a car and you still have to do it the old fashioned getting bored, wasting time and standing in the cold way. There is no short cut I'm afraid.
Noted and thanks.. and about the shoddy grading as well.. enjoy going to auctions :)
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i am looking to do 30-40k a year on the motorways ... bells and whistles can be a differece between life and death as i see it... u can call it my midlife crisis as i'm making the leap from sound jap/korean to german :)
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to add some context i'm looking to do 30-40k a year on motorways which makes the bells and whistles ie adaptive cruise, extra safety tech worthwhile
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to add some context i'm looking to do 30-40k a year on motorways which makes the bells and whistles ie adaptive cruise, extra safety tech worthwhile
If safety is a concern, take a proessional along to assess the car.. Someone qualified to asess car damage. The cost will be minimal in the scheme of things and it's your life we are talking about being potentially at risk.
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