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Ford Fiesta - My neighbour car with no MOT - fv43576

I am frustrating with my neighbour because her car Ford Fiesta 1997 looks like a scrap condition full of rust, she still drive everyday to work and take the kids too as I took her number plate and look on www.gov.uk it has been tax till 2017 but no MOT since on April 2nd 2016. I feel it not fair because I am obey the law to pay my tax and MOT also insurance too, but she never been caught. Where can I report it to police by 101 or DVLA? If there is no MOT is means she had no insurance?

Ford Fiesta - My neighbour car with no MOT - RobJP

A lot of people forget when an MOT runs out

First step, put an anonymous note under the windscreen wiper telling her the MOT has expired.

If still nothing gets done, report it to the police. Make sure you get a reference number for the report.

Ford Fiesta - My neighbour car with no MOT - concrete

Good advice Rob. It is too easy to forget about the MOT, especially a busy Mum with kids. Give her a chance to rectify her error.

Cheers Concrete

Ford Fiesta - My neighbour car with no MOT - fv43576

Good idea I'll leave her a note and see what happen. Thanks

Ford Fiesta - My neighbour car with no MOT - Warning

If she gets involved in an accident, the insurance will be void.

Ford Fiesta - My neighbour car with no MOT - gordonbennet

I couldn't shop someone for no MOT and this someone sounds like they are struggling to make ends meet so just what they need, others may feel differently.

When we become even more a surveillance state resembling east germany, in due course, such things will be expected of a good citizen.

Edited by gordonbennet on 23/05/2016 at 22:22

Ford Fiesta - My neighbour car with no MOT - bazza

I couldn't agree more GB !

Ford Fiesta - My neighbour car with no MOT - Mike H

I couldn't shop someone for no MOT and this someone sounds like they are struggling to make ends meet so just what they need, others may feel differently.

When we become even more a surveillance state resembling east germany, in due course, such things will be expected of a good citizen.

Agree in principle GB, but if she is struggling to make ends meet, it might be that the car is in a dangerous condition through skimped maintenance. As the OP has said he'll do, a simple note under the windscreen will hopefully just jog her memory, and prompt her into sorting it.

Bit of a tricky one though, if she has an accident and it turns out that the car wasn't roadworthy, no-one wins here.

Ford Fiesta - My neighbour car with no MOT - gordonbennet
As the OP has said he'll do, a simple note under the windscreen will hopefully just jog her memory, and prompt her into sorting it.

I'm not even sure about that, who knows what this woman's circumstances are.

I wonder what our wive's would think if Heaven forbid they found themselves alone raising children on a tight budget and someone targetted them with notes about their car's MOT being out.

I'd be wary if i were the OP, this woman might have a brother built like a brick outhouse ex 2 Para, make sure not seen cos he might take it the wrong way.

If the note is going under the wiper suggest dead of night, black clothing complete with ski mask, preferably abseiling in silently from a convenient roof (maybe off the roof of the Iranian embassy, night vision sighted Glock optional) and making a silent evac via the shadows after successfully planting the warning, then onward for full debrief at Hereford next morning 0700hours....alternatively get George Similey on the blower, he'll know a handy spook at The Circus who could handle it..:-)

Alternatively he could always mind his own beeswax

Edited by gordonbennet on 24/05/2016 at 22:45

Ford Fiesta - My neighbour car with no MOT - RobJP
Alternatively he could always mind his own beeswax

True, we could all do that.

But then the person I reported to the police driving down the A55 at 90+ one evening, weaving all over the place, would have gotten away with being as high as a kite on drink and drugs, and possibly killed someone later in his journey.

As it was, he was pulled over within 4 or 5 miles of me getting on the mobile to NWP. They called me back within an hour to say thanks.

Same for the 'suspicious' characters I saw while out shooting one day. They were wandering around the house and buildings on the other side of the valley, and loading stuff into the back of a van. I knew the people who lived there, and could quite clearly see through the binoculars that the pair I was watching were not them. So I called NWP again, including the report of them smashing a window to get into the house. Ten minutes later, plod in a helo overhead. Though they tried making a run for it, I'd phoned the farmer whose land I was shooting on, and he'd blocked the half-mile driveway with a tractor.

They never even knew there'd been an eyewitness to the whole thing, watching from 400 metres away and giving a running commentary on the phone to the police control room. Which was then played back in court.

Doing nothing might be the easy thing. Not 'interfering', or 'being a busybody'. "Minding my own business"

What if the woman in this case has 4 bald tyres, one morning it's wet and she's running late, and she ploughs off the road and takes out a bunch of other kids walking to school ? Then, what would be the RIGHT thing to have done ?

We can't know. But the MOT is there for road safety. We all see the cases of people with bald tyres, broken suspension, etc. that are only picked up by an MOT (or a police stop, as in a post on here last week with 3 bald tyres) because people don't maintain their cars.

Ford Fiesta - My neighbour car with no MOT - concrete

Nice one Rob. Just the kind of neighbour we all need. I would find it difficult to ignore any blatant wrongdoing. I suppose it was the way I was brought up. Better to be thought a busybody and sometimes raise a false alarm than walk away and let the 'toerags' get away with anything. The fact the police have commended you says it all really. Well done.

Cheers Concrete

Ford Fiesta - My neighbour car with no MOT - Warning

"I couldn't shop someone for no MOT and this someone sounds like they are struggling "

I have been involved in two accidents, where people have hit my car and failed to stop.Someone knowingly not driving without an MOT, may choose not to hang around.

However, I with the DVLA would send out automated email, 14 days before to remind people, their MOT is due to expire.

Ford Fiesta - My neighbour car with no MOT - Galaxy

If she gets involved in an accident, the insurance will be void.

Not so.

Ford Fiesta - My neighbour car with no MOT - focussed

If she gets involved in an accident, the insurance will be void.

Stop talking nonsense on a public forum - the third-party insurance cannot be made void - since 2009 it's an EU law on insurance.

Ford Fiesta - My neighbour car with no MOT - jc2

Yes,she'll get minimum RTA cover but that's it.

Ford Fiesta - My neighbour car with no MOT - Galaxy

RTA Cover doesn't exist anymore.

The minimum legal insurance today is Third Party.

Ford Fiesta - My neighbour car with no MOT - RT

RTA Cover doesn't exist anymore.

The minimum legal insurance today is Third Party.

"Minimum legal cover" and "RTA cover" are the same thing, by definition!

Ford Fiesta - My neighbour car with no MOT - oldroverboy.

One of or neighbours was self employed, sold his van (no Mot) as he had no further use for it when business crashed, bought an mot'd old banger to run around in and get to his new job where he has a nice new van for work and the old banger is now sitting unmot'd and not insured but taxed occopying one of our scarce parking spaces.

It is no longer used but it is on the public highway even if it is a residential road.

What to do?

Ps as gordon said earlier.. beware .. He is built like an ex para and when lets go, can be like a very angry king kong. I prefer to avoid A&E...

Edited by oldroverboy. on 25/05/2016 at 06:52

Ford Fiesta - My neighbour car with no MOT - Gibbo_Wirral

ANPR will catch her sooner or later. If it were me I'd prefer a friendly note from my neighbour than a fine.

Ford Fiesta - My neighbour car with no MOT - Wackyracer

Simple solution, postal service gives complete anonymity.

Ford Fiesta - My neighbour car with no MOT - John Boy

Like GB, I couldn't shop her. I wouldn't leave an anonymous note either. When the car owner reads it, she'll think "Who would write this?" and probably think of some poor innocent who accidently failed to speak to her sometime. That would be great for community relations.

I agree completely with what Rob did, but his two examples are in a different league altogether.

One other point is that the OP has seen rust and seems to assume that the car will be an MOT failure. That's not necessarily so. It depends where it is and how bad it is.

Ford Fiesta - My neighbour car with no MOT - bazza

I completely agree. I try to pretty much mind my own business as I go about my daily stuff and not poke my nose into things unless I can see someone needs help of some sort. I think Iwould definitely have acted similar to Rob regards the burglarly but unlikely regarding the speedster. See that kind of thing every week down here, chav racing etc. If at all possible I avoid all contact with the authorities, having had a few unpleasant exchanges in the past which has coloured my opinion to the point I am unlikely to want to engage.

Ford Fiesta - My neighbour car with no MOT - RobJP

It wasn't the speeding that made me call it in. It was the way that the driver was all over the road at such speeds.

If someone wants to do a considerable speed but is in obvious control, and really aware of what they're doing, then I'm not bothered in the slightest.

Twenty (or so) years ago I did my advanced driving course with IAM, going through the 'Roadcraft' handbook. It taught me a great deal about positioning, sightlines, etc. About 5 years ago I happened to be behind a dark blue 530d that was staying within the limit, but making fantastic progress due to his use of all of the road. So I stuck a couple of hundred yards behind him for 3-4 miles, observing just what he did, how he lined himself up.

When he pulled off, it was no surprise for me to see that it was a traffic car. I happened to see the same car a few weeks later while getting fuel, and the driver came over and asked me why I'd been following on on that day (the curse of the private plate on my car, I suppose). So I just explained how I'd been really enjoying watching all that theory being used. Got a grin and a 'Thanks' for it !

Ford Fiesta - My neighbour car with no MOT - FoxyJukebox

Driving without an MOT is against the law. That's the strarting point if you are "pulled up".

Anyone who drives a car MUST know when their MOT/tax etc is due. I would suggest some rigid car ownership questions as part of the driving test.

My top five would be

1) When does a vehicle have to have an MOT

2) What is the legal limit of tyre tread?

3) When can you drive with children in the car without a child seat?

4) Is it legal to drive in the dark with only one headlight working?

5) What type of top up oil does a car use?

Any others anyone can think of-MOT related or not?

Ford Fiesta - My neighbour car with no MOT - RT

Half the garages in the UK would fail Q5 !!!.

Ford Fiesta - My neighbour car with no MOT - jc2

Half the garages in the UK would fail Q5 !!!.

More like all;even my Ford main dealer can't do it unless I tell them;Ford changed the spec. more than three years ago and they haven't caught up or probably because they have a vast stock of the old oil.

Ford Fiesta - My neighbour car with no MOT - focussed

Driving without an MOT is against the law. That's the strarting point if you are "pulled up".

Anyone who drives a car MUST know when their MOT/tax etc is due. I would suggest some rigid car ownership questions as part of the driving test.

My top five would be

1) When does a vehicle have to have an MOT

2) What is the legal limit of tyre tread?

3) When can you drive with children in the car without a child seat?

4) Is it legal to drive in the dark with only one headlight working?

5) What type of top up oil does a car use?

All of these questions, apart from Q5 which is too specific, are covered in either the show me/tell me questions on the driving test or the theory test questions.

The problem is that some drivers need to be re-examined periodically.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/car-show-me-tel...s