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Jaguar XJ X358 - Future Classic Jaguars - hillspecial

Hi all,

instead of buying a tired, old, partially 'restored' classic , for less money I'm considering a late low mileage Jaguar XJ, the facelifted X358 with the wing air intakes and keeping it for many years, possibly decades, as it's my favourite ever Jaguar saloon, who knows, in the future it may be as sought after as the MKII is today.

Was rivet corrosion still an issue on these late models?

Only intend to use it in the summer and keep it garaged should it be ‘coc***ed’ over winter ?

3,000 miles pa tops, so going for petrol

LWB, top spec. Low pro tyres to be avoided ?

But to go for normally aspirated, or blower?

Any thoughts?

Many thanks,

HillSpecial

Jaguar XJ X358 - Future Classic Jaguars - RobJP

The XJR will almost certainly be the one to obtain 'classic' status first. Much as in the previous versions, where the XJR is now becoming sought-after.

I wouldn't be so bothered about the LWB version.

The XJR came on large wheels with low-profile tyres. So if you go for that, then you've really not got much choice, if you want to stay original. However, with limited mileage like you're talking, you won't be driving it such long distances that the harder ride becomes a major issue.

The rivet corrosion was raised (by quite a lot of people) as a potential problem down the road. Whether it actually ever became one I've not heard, but you'd expect to have, if it had happened much.

Jaguar XJ X358 - Future Classic Jaguars - daveyjp

My initial thought is don't assume low mileage means fewer problems.

I've owned a Jaguar and been to their enthusiast shows - I advise over next summer you do the same. Visit a few shows, join the forums, talk to owners, learn what owning a Jaguar for "decades" actually entails.

At shows you will also find owners selling vehicles. They will boast of the comprehensive history, this history is a good indicator of just how much money it costs to keep a car in tip top condition for decades.

The other issue is the MkII was mechanical parts may be hard to find, but the XJR will be full of electronics and ECUs which even at just 15-20 years old may fail and could be impossible to replace.

However the XJR is a cracking Q car and I'd have one, just go into it with eyes open!

Edited by daveyjp on 21/10/2015 at 14:26

Jaguar XJ X358 - Future Classic Jaguars - gordonbennet

Just to add to DaveyJP's post, i can concur that running an expensive when new car from nearly new through its banger years and keeping it in the right condition as it ages is a seriously expensive business.

Mine is a 19 year old Merc coupe, last of the W124 E320's, which we've had since it was 6.

Its been serviced and taken for MOT every year by my MB indy, plus lots of other work by me, a visit to my handy little one man and his dog bodyshop to keep the paintwork up to standard every couple of years, it all adds up, have spent over £3k on it the last 2 years alone and my costs are very low, a fraction of what most indies let alone a main dealer or large bodyshops would charge.

Just to give you an idea, the rear screen delaminated again for the second time in our ownership, i managed to get one fitted for just over £400, that was cheap, but it was the last pattern part in the country till a new batch is ordered and made, to give you an idea of other costs a rear laminated screen on a W215 CL (size of Jag) is well over £2000 so mine would be at least £1000 from Mercedes.

Thats on a relatively small car too and the mileage has only just crept over 100k this year.

These vehicles are for the pleasure of owning them, very few will actually net a profit due to the costs of upkeep.

Jaguar XJ X358 - Future Classic Jaguars - hillspecial

Thanks guys.

Lots to think about.

Yes, suppose failed electronics could be impossible to fix. Bit of a worry that one .

Jaguar XJ X358 - Future Classic Jaguars - hillspecial

Should it be kept in a dehumidifed 'plastic bag' over the damp winter months ? Not sure why asterisk-end out above ?

Not bothered about keeping it in time warp condition. Just running order.

Had a ' classic Volvo' for many years. Parts were becoming hard to get hold of .

HillSpecial.

Jaguar XJ X358 - Future Classic Jaguars - RobJP

I think it was asterisked out because the 4 letters in the middle spelled C--N. With OO where the '--' is !

It's a bit like Scun-thorpe, or snig-gerred.

The one bad bit about dehumidifying is that you might find lots of other bits start to dry out. Seals, the leather, etc.

Jaguar XJ X358 - Future Classic Jaguars - kiss (keep it simple)

I should be so bold as to say that it is virtually impossible to keep a car like that in running condition for decades. The more complex a design, the less likely that it can be repaired economically (or at all). As previously stated, it's the computer parts that will be the problem. Bespoke circuits are very difficult or impossible to replicate, and even finding a "New Old Stock" item can be a disappointment; they simply die with age. The same applies to exotic Hi-Fi equipment from the 1980's, often fitted with some crucial part made from pure "Unobtanium".

Maybe the answer is to do a "Genome Map" of the car's complete electrical system and convert it into an App for whatever iPhone will exist in the future!