What is life like with your car? Let us know and win £500 in John Lewis vouchers | No thanks
Audi A 4 1.9 TDI - Improved performance after changing battery - Steveieb

Can anyone(perhaps Elecie doc and A/C ) explain why I have had a massive performance increase since changing my defective battery. (the battery showed weak on the test but would start the car ?

Audi A 4 1.9 TDI - Improved performance after changing battery - Railroad.

Because 'defective', 'knackered', 'faulty' etc. are very generic terms to describe something that isn't functioning as it should. In reality there could be any number of faults with your battery and each would give a different symptom. We put them all under one heading, 'defective', and you could say that's all we need to know. The battery is either servicable or it isn't.

An electronic control unit however will see things very differently. A battery could have an open circuit fault with a cell and the ECM would respond accordingly. Equally the battery could have a short circuit cell. Both of these faults would to us mean the battery needs replacing, but the ECM would interpret them differently because that's what they are.

The answer to your question is therefore simple. Your car's engine control module receives input information from sensors which monitor everything it needs to know, including battery voltage. Your old 'defective' battery voltage was unstable, caused by whatever was actually wrong with it, and the ECM responded accordingly.

Audi A 4 1.9 TDI - Improved performance after changing battery - Andrew-T

Maybe refreshing the battery connections helped a bit?

Audi A 4 1.9 TDI - Improved performance after changing battery - elekie&a/c doctor

This highlights the importance of a good battery.It is common on modern cars for there to be no indication of a failing battery if the car starts ok.However,if the battery voltage drops to less than 9 volts on cranking,it is not unusual for many of the electronic modules to throw a wobbly and lose their driveability memory (engine and electronic gearboxes).Renewing the battery prevents this happening.

Audi A 4 1.9 TDI - Improved performance after changing battery - slkfanboy

An Auto gearbox and I guess ECU will know the battery is low and change the way the work.

Same thing happen with my Jag when the battery was low. Also to a small degree if the alternator is working harder you get bigger back emf (restistance) to turn.

Audi A 4 1.9 TDI - Improved performance after changing battery - RT

Am I missing something? When the engine's running, the electrics will be operating at 14.4v from the alternator so why does battery condition make any difference to anything other than starting?

Audi A 4 1.9 TDI - Improved performance after changing battery - Railroad.

Am I missing something? When the engine's running, the electrics will be operating at 14.4v from the alternator so why does battery condition make any difference to anything other than starting?

If you don't get it then it's going to be very difficult to explain, but I will try. You have a brain, and can think, apply reason, feel emotion and lots more. A computer can't do any of those things. It does what it's programmed to do and nothing more and nothing less. It receives input information and responds to that. You look at a battery and decide it's faulty, simple as that. A computer does not understand the term faulty. There has to be something faulty about it, and whatever it is is what the computer will respond to. It cannot make allowances, it only does what it's told. A short circuit battery will have a different symptom to an open circuit or high resistance battery. The computer will interpret these faults differently because they are different, even though your battery tester will just tell you it's faulty. Am I making sense?
Audi A 4 1.9 TDI - Improved performance after changing battery - Steveieb

Most grateful for all your contributions.

The car started ok so I was not aware that the battery was defective. It was only because i had a newer battery off my old car that I decided to change them.

the turbo works so much better and the radio is clearer.

Most of the time we wait for the battery to fail completley before replacing it. But in this instance I would never have guessed the effect a dfective battery coould have on a cars performance.

Audi A 4 1.9 TDI - Improved performance after changing battery - quizman

I cannot for the life of me understand why the turbo would work better with a new battery on a 1.9 TDI, the turbo works off the exhaust pressure.

If the car will start, the battery must be OK. It's not as if the 1.9 TDI is a modern engine, we have one in our Golf and the battery is 7 years old and the car goes well.

Audi A 4 1.9 TDI - Improved performance after changing battery - Railroad.

If the car will start, the battery must be OK.

Not true at all. The mere fact that a battery appears to have sufficient capacity to start the engine is not in itself conclusive proof that the battery is serviceable.
Audi A 4 1.9 TDI - Improved performance after changing battery - medview

There another explanation.

In changing the battery the ECU lost power and any learnt settings so that it had to restart with factory defaults.

If this is true, the performance may decline with time as the ECU adapts to some fault condition. I had this effect with a faulty MAF sensor.

Good luck

Joe

Audi A 4 1.9 TDI - Improved performance after changing battery - hardway

Seen this and similar on a few cars,

Jag was mentioned,

BM's and Mercs.

Low battery voltage can cause some very confusing performance issues

and I use the term battery voltage because there's some confusion about that,

the one sure thing is IT'S NOT 12 VOLTS!

If yours is showing that or less the battery is shot.

worse would be the battery having a massive internal resistance to charge.

which would see the alternator trying to do something like force a golf ball down a garden hose.

If you were to unplug this alternator then start the engine then re plug in the alternator you would hear/see a significatnt rpm drop,

an alternator is an electro MAGNETIC device.

And if you battery has a high internal resistance trying the previous test it's possible the engine would stall from the increse of restance coming from the alternator,

or as it's functioning now as an electro magnetic BRAKE!

Totally plausible.