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German discipline - Crossing the road - oldroverboy.

In Cologne for a few days, noticed that when using a pedestrian crossing even taxi drivers stop. Usually lucky not to get run over by the chancers in colchester.

Edited by oldroverboy. on 08/07/2015 at 08:44

German discipline - Crossing the road - Leif

I was in Munich a few years ago and was nearly run over by a bike on the pavement. Having arrived the night before, and not speaking German, I had no idea there were bike lanes on the pavement. Seems the cyclists thought I was fair game to be squashed. You must follow zee rules.

German discipline - Crossing the road - oldroverboy.

I was in Munich a few years ago and was nearly run over by a bike on the pavement. Having arrived the night before, and not speaking German, I had no idea there were bike lanes on the pavement. Seems the cyclists thought I was fair game to be squashed. You must follow zee rules.

And don't mention the war.... Although there is a small exhibition of photos at the side of the cathedral.

And after 5 days of German food portions.... We haf ways of making you put on ze weight. Good food.. Good prices.

Next to us in the pub a very happy jaguar XE owner.

Edited by oldroverboy. on 08/07/2015 at 10:05

German discipline - Crossing the road - Engineer Andy

No different to over here - Back in my college days in the early-mid 90s, I saw a collision between a cyclist (probably a cycle courier) and a pedestrian trying to cross Tottenham Court Road in London at some traffic lights. The pedestrian had looked to see if any traffic was coming (its a one way street for those not familiar with the road) and stepped out onto the road, only to be smashed into by said cyclist riding the WRONG WAY at high speed.

Luckily both parties weren't badly hurt, but what astounded me next was that said 'cyclist' started to verbally lay into the pedestrian for 'not seeing him' - I couldn't believe the nerve of the man. Needless to say many other people helping out saw differently and let the bloke know in no uncertain terms. As (at least at the time) a keen cyclist myself, I felt ashamed to be one at the cycle courier's attitude. Sadly this sort of thing (as well as cycling at speed on the pavement, jumping red lights/across pedestrian crossings, blocking roads by riding 2 or 3 abreast or when turning right, etc) is far worse in London today due to the increase in people cycling to work (most likely with very little training [what happened to the cycling proficiency test at school?]) and more couriers (who are in my view even worse than their motorcycle cousins).

Many cyclists do themselves no favours (and don't endear themselves to the general [car-driving] public) by behaving in such a reckless and selfish manner.

German discipline - Crossing the road - John F

No different to over here

Very different, in my experience of tourist visits to several German towns and cities in recent years.

The provision of urban routes for cyclists and pedestrians, both segregated and shared, transcends our feeble attempts. It is always clear on which side of the path to proceed, and even if it is not, people seem to know how to keep right and how to behave if it's busy. In the UK, I am forever having to avoid head-on collisions and make risky overtaking manouvres on shared pavements because people seem unaware of the basic UK highway code of keeping to the left. Schoolchildren are the worst offenders - don't they teach this basic stuff any more?

German discipline - Crossing the road - Leif

Something has changed. I often see pedestrians walk across a road at a T junction without looking to see if a car is about to turn. In Slough I regularly saw cyclists at night without lights, or cycling towards me on my side of the road. Lycra cyclists often cycle in groups making it impossible to overtake. There seems to be a lack of awareness of ones vulnerability.