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Do you have your eyesight checked ? - scot22

Yesterday I visited my eye consultant ( I had a problem with raised i.o.p which has been lowered and is now managed in the normal range ) Very pleased to hear my eyesight is very good etc.

However, towards the end of the consultation he talked about things which MIGHT happen to anybody's sight as a result of aging ( which we all hope to do )

If we live long enough our sight will become not be good enough for driving. Whoever is first to say (me or the consultant) I will stop driving immediately.

What I later thought about is how many people are unaware of problems ?

A post will never lead to legislation, but I do hope that anyone reading this will make sure they have their eyes checked regularly - especially when over 60. Cars over a certain age have to have an annual M.O.T why not people ?

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - peg

Yesterday I visited my eye consultant ( I had a problem with raised i.o.p which has been lowered and is now managed in the normal range ) Very pleased to hear my eyesight is very good etc.

However, towards the end of the consultation he talked about things which MIGHT happen to anybody's sight as a result of aging ( which we all hope to do )

If we live long enough our sight will become not be good enough for driving. Whoever is first to say (me or the consultant) I will stop driving immediately.

What I later thought about is how many people are unaware of problems ?

A post will never lead to legislation, but I do hope that anyone reading this will make sure they have their eyes checked regularly - especially when over 60. Cars over a certain age have to have an annual M.O.T why not people ?

I agree with you and recon there are thousands of drivers who don't meet the eyesight standard required to drive. It is an issue successive governments have failed to address and would go a long way into making the roads safer.

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - Happy Blue!

Normally, it is only people who wear glasses who have their eyes checked regularly. It should be mandatory say every ten years to be able to perform a basic sight test.

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - skidpan

Have had mine checked annually since about 1966. A couple of years ago the regular checks saved the sight in my right eye when it was discovered I had Glaucoma. But the test used is relatively new in my experience (the puffer test) and not all optitians have the kit (especially the old style one man in a shop), that why I went to Specsavers. The vision is permanantly damaged but would still pass the DVLA test (just). Luckily my left eye is still perfect when corrected by spectacles.

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - Wackyracer

I too went to Specsavers for my most recent eye tests. I've found that alot of small independant shops want to charge extra for alot of the tests, Specsavers did it all for £20. The other thing was my new local optician was not really interested in booking me in and was quoting about £60.

Too much relies on people doing the right thing themselves, often the ignorant and arrogant won't take any notice.

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - scot22

It was the local Specsavers where I was diagnosed. The director had even invested in the high standard Goldman test to check puffer result.

Perhaps when police do spot checks eyesight could be introduced. Obviously it would need to be simple number plate check, nothing sophisticated - but, if necessary, compulsory follow up.

In my opinion there should be a mandatory test for over 60s ( my age group ) at least every two years. A lot can happen in a short time.

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - RichT54

I have my eyes tested every 2 years at Specsavers.

I was pleased to discover that the tests are free (NHS funded) once you are 60 or older.

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - hillman

I go every year to the opticians in the village. It is run by a husband and wife team. The husband test pressure with a puffer but the wife tests with a device resting on the eye.

My sight deteriorated and I now wear driving glasses with polarized and photochromic lenses. The husband had a fit when he heard I was using them at night so I now have a separate pair for night use. I was quite comfortable with them.

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - balleballe

The NCT (puff of air test) is used for commercial reasons and its not as accurate as the other method - hence the reason 3 readings are taken for each eye and then averaged

The most accurate way to check pressure is by using a contact tonometer - which most of the 'old style one man in a shop' places tend to use. It is also the method used by the vast majority of eye departments in hospitals

The NCT can be used by untrained individuals and you do not need to use a new sterile probe for every patient. It frees up the opticians time as "time = money"

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - Andrew-T

Yesterday I turned 76. I have my sight checked annually for free because my father and his sister suffered from glaucoma. Fortunately so far I am OK. However it's not just sight that deteriorates (including peripheral vision and reduced neck movement) but reaction time. But I suppose these shortcomings of wrinklies' driving is compensated somewhat by a reduced tendency to take risks.

But if driving is a necessity or a great joy to some, they may continue longer than they should.

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - colinh

Part of regular medical checks in Spain - every 10 years prior to 65 - 3 to 5 years after 65. The clinic then take your photo and email it to the licencing department for preparing your new licence (P.S...and no paper "bits" with the licence!)

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - scot22

Could it become EU legislation or is that not permissable ? Love it to be the case here.

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - Leif
Is this thread sponsored by Specsavers? :)

I had my eyes checked a few months ago, at a local optician. He found scaring of one cornea, probably caused before birth. There were huge numbers of tests, far more thorough than Spesavers. Aging means I have the usual reduced near vision, and I also have early stage cataracts, all quite normal for my age. A few years ago Specsavers supplied some new glasses, and the prescription was wrong. So they checked my eyes, and found one cornea was swelling. It turned out I had splinters in the eye from a gardening accident months earlier. They were very good, phoned the hospital, and I had the splinters removed the same day. They retested my eyes, and redid the prescription. The only problem with Specsavers is the poor selection of frames, if you don't like their current styles. I went to an independent optician as they had a wider range of frame styles.

I think it is obvious when eyesight is not good, and each driver should be responsible.
Do you have your eyesight checked ? - balleballe
Is this thread sponsored by Specsavers? :) I had my eyes checked a few months ago, at a local optician. He found scaring of one cornea, probably caused before birth. There were huge numbers of tests, far more thorough than Spesavers. Aging means I have the usual reduced near vision, and I also have early stage cataracts, all quite normal for my age. A few years ago Specsavers supplied some new glasses, and the prescription was wrong. So they checked my eyes, and found one cornea was swelling. It turned out I had splinters in the eye from a gardening accident months earlier. They were very good, phoned the hospital, and I had the splinters removed the same day. They retested my eyes, and redid the prescription. The only problem with Specsavers is the poor selection of frames, if you don't like their current styles. I went to an independent optician as they had a wider range of frame styles. I think it is obvious when eyesight is not good, and each driver should be responsible.

Specsavers optometrists work on either a 20 or 25 minute 'testing slot'. It is difficult to conduct a thorough eye test in this time unfortunantly

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - oldroverboy.

A few years ago, I had visions of lights or stars falling in sheets in front of my eyes after having a paricularly bad headache. There was a possibility of a minor CVA and Bp was high-ish, so My GP arranged an urgent appointment with an eye specialist who took some photos of the back of the eyes and did a complete assessment, this was followed up rapidly by an appointment with a consultant eye specialist in hospital where some dye was injected into my blood and then my eyes photographed and scanned.

After all this and diagnosis was of some macular degeneration, and a lifestyle change lowered blood pressure,(no bp reducing drugs! Hurrah!)

Stabilised, and the fabulous experience of high quality "tailored" varifocals @ £400 a pop has done the trick. Also have an annual eye test as Dad had glaucoma/diabetes, but clear of all that.

I do not enjoy driving at night, but cope.

I fully agree that eye testing should be done, I would think with the current photocard renewal could be a good starting point and then at the suggested renewal times after 70 years of age. Funnily enough, received my invitation for a test today......

An old friend was stopped by police after an accident (not his fault) and they asked him to read the numberplate of the white car further along the road, and then said no, that's wrong, till he pointed out that the car they were asking him to read was cream and the white car was further away, sfter which he read the number plate of the cream car. He was 85 at the time and had better eyesight than plod! I loved that!

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - scot22

Great story - we are all different.

No, no involvement from Specsavers - I'm an independent free spirit.

I wish everbody would take responsibility.

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - oldroverboy.

No, no involvement from Specsavers - I'm an independent free spirit.

Actually, I have used specsavers since getting the tailored varifocals and realised that they are like most car dealers...... Franchises, so there are good and bad, but the one advantage of a good one is that problems are sorted and when i went for thr basic varifocals and rejected them there was a full refund after which i went for the "ultimate level" of tailored varifocals and have had the same pair now for 4 years as my vision has stabilised, and minor repairs to frames have been free.

And I don't work for them either, but the Carmarthen branch have been exceptionally good!

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - balleballe

No, no involvement from Specsavers - I'm an independent free spirit.

Actually, I have used specsavers since getting the tailored varifocals and realised that they are like most car dealers...... Franchises, so there are good and bad, but the one advantage of a good one is that problems are sorted and when i went for thr basic varifocals and rejected them there was a full refund after which i went for the "ultimate level" of tailored varifocals and have had the same pair now for 4 years as my vision has stabilised, and minor repairs to frames have been free.

And I don't work for them either, but the Carmarthen branch have been exceptionally good!

The technology behind their 'tailor made' varifocals is called 'freeform'

The lenses they use in their 'tailor made' category are pretty good but there are far superior varifocals on the market

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - concrete

I would use the Carmarthen branch if I were closer; the parking is free at present due to broken ticket machines, and guess what, visits to the town are up and so is income to local businesses. Tells you everything does that!!

Anyway back at the thread, I don't suppose I am alone in having annual blood tests as part of the 'well man' initiative. Surely a basic eye test and even hearing test is quick and easy to perform at the same time. Enough to indicate if further investigation is required. All in favour of these sorts of tests as the roads are no place anyone with diminished senses.

Cheers Concrete

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - RT

Anyway back at the thread, I don't suppose I am alone in having annual blood tests as part of the 'well man' initiative. Surely a basic eye test and even hearing test is quick and easy to perform at the same time. Enough to indicate if further investigation is required. All in favour of these sorts of tests as the roads are no place anyone with diminished senses.

Cheers Concrete

You're absolutely right - a basic eyesight test consists simply of reading the chart and noting the Snellen Scale number against the smallest line that can be read - it's done by nurses routinely every time a patient attends an eye hospital, taking a couple of minutes.

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - balleballe

A few years ago, I had visions of lights or stars falling in sheets in front of my eyes after having a paricularly bad headache. There was a possibility of a minor CVA and Bp was high-ish, so My GP arranged an urgent appointment with an eye specialist who took some photos of the back of the eyes and did a complete assessment, this was followed up rapidly by an appointment with a consultant eye specialist in hospital where some dye was injected into my blood and then my eyes photographed and scanned.

After all this and diagnosis was of some macular degeneration, and a lifestyle change lowered blood pressure,(no bp reducing drugs! Hurrah!)

Stabilised, and the fabulous experience of high quality "tailored" varifocals @ £400 a pop has done the trick. Also have an annual eye test as Dad had glaucoma/diabetes, but clear of all that.

I do not enjoy driving at night, but cope.

I fully agree that eye testing should be done, I would think with the current photocard renewal could be a good starting point and then at the suggested renewal times after 70 years of age. Funnily enough, received my invitation for a test today......

An old friend was stopped by police after an accident (not his fault) and they asked him to read the numberplate of the white car further along the road, and then said no, that's wrong, till he pointed out that the car they were asking him to read was cream and the white car was further away, sfter which he read the number plate of the cream car. He was 85 at the time and had better eyesight than plod! I loved that!

I'm assuming dietary advice was given to you with regards to your AMD?

A good 'anti-reflective' coating should make things easier but if you paid £400 I can only assume you already have a coating on your varifocals?

You can easily check the quality of your coating - take your glasses off and under a light move your glasses around with the lenses facing up. There will be a residual hue from the coating. The brighter the green, the cheaper the quality of the coating.

Good quality coatings will give you a dull green/blue/purple colour (depending on the angle your lens makes with the light above)

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - Smileyman

Yes, every couple of years, as I wear glasses for VDU use at work the employer pays, and I keep a spare pair of glasses in the car at all times (it's legal requirement in some contries)

I understand anyone who is diabetic is entitled to free eye tests, but cannot vouch for that.

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - RichT54

Yes, every couple of years, as I wear glasses for VDU use at work the employer pays, and I keep a spare pair of glasses in the car at all times (it's legal requirement in some contries)

I understand anyone who is diabetic is entitled to free eye tests, but cannot vouch for that.

Yes, being diagnosed with diabetes qualifies.

The conditions for free eye tests are described here:

http://www.nhs.uk/chq/Pages/895.aspx?Category**=68&SubCategory**=157

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - madf

I have thin plastic varifocal reactolites with titanium frames and paid less than £300 in the UK..

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - oldroverboy.

I forgot, my £400 a pop are as usual at s*******s are buy one get one free.

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - Hamsafar

Self-driving (piloted) cars will be on sale from 2016 so by the time I am 60 in 20 years time, I hope they have ironed-out the need for the pilot to see.

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - Sofa Spud

Self-driving (piloted) cars will be on sale from 2016 so by the time I am 60 in 20 years time, I hope they have ironed-out the need for the pilot to see.

If self-driving cars really do go on sale in 2016, the legal status of all the self-driving capabilities will probably be similar to driving aids like automatic gearboxes. In other words, a self-driving car will still need a qualified driver with good eyesight sat behind the wheel, even if they're not actually touching it.

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - Smileyman

I paid less than that, frame, elite varifocal thin lens with reactions (or whatever they call the getting darker in sunlight), cost me £4 plus Tesco clubcard points on 'doubleup' - points earnt as a kickback from my credit card use, at no extra cost to myself, well 'every little helps' !!

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - hillman

“I do not enjoy driving at night, but cope.” Can you tell me anybody who does ?

“However it's not just sight that deteriorates (including peripheral vision and reduced neck movement) but reaction time.” I do stretching exercises to keep my neck supple. One of my work-mates told me a tale about his neighbour who was very deliberate in everything she did. She was so slow at driving off after the traffic lights changed that the ‘spy’ camera caught her and she was accused of jumping the lights.

One of the old ladies SWMBO knew only drove along streets that she knew because her eyesight had deteriorated. The need for proof of adequate vision should be a legal requirement. For oldies, like myself long past 70, the opportunity is available in that I have to reapply for my driving licence every few years. If the DVLA asked for proof in the provision of copies of eyesight test reports instead of taking my word for it I would be happier.

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - Wackyracer

The need for proof of adequate vision should be a legal requirement. For oldies, like myself long past 70, the opportunity is available in that I have to reapply for my driving licence every few years. If the DVLA asked for proof in the provision of copies of eyesight test reports instead of taking my word for it I would be happier.

This is something I have felt is wrong for a long time. It is not right to allow people to do a self assessment, people are often delusional about their capabilities and they knowingly lie to keep their licence (not always elderly people either!).

HGV and PCV drivers have to have their health (and eyes) checked by a doctor to renew their licence.

Your suggestion is something I would also like to see.

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - Bromptonaut

This is something I have felt is wrong for a long time. It is not right to allow people to do a self assessment, people are often delusional about their capabilities and they knowingly lie to keep their licence (not always elderly people either!).

They may not even notice a gradual deterioration.

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - Sofa Spud

Maybe there's a case for everyone re-taking their driving test every 10 years, then?

If it's logical to check people's eyesight and other health matters, then isn't it logical to also regularly check peoplle's driving ability and knowledge of the highway code?

Edited by Sofa Spud on 19/06/2015 at 18:05

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - Andrew-T

“I do not enjoy driving at night, but cope.” Can you tell me anybody who does ?

I used to, a few decades back when traffic was less. Now, with so many cars having unnecessarily intense headlamps - helping their drivers to see more but oncoming drivers less - it can be unpleasant, and sometimes hazardous. Part of this is because my own eyes create flare, and if the road is wet there is glare too. On the plus side, modern reflective markings are a boon.

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - alan1302

“I do not enjoy driving at night, but cope.” Can you tell me anybody who does ?

I do!

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - scot22

I've been away for a few days so not been able to keep up to date with the thread. All of the posts have been interesting.

Hillman has included something which I've also thought about. I find my neck mobility makes the over the shoulder glance difficult ( I make sure I do it but feel it could be more effective). Hillman, did you devise your own stretches ? or is there a book you could recommend please ?

I am not ageist ,anti young or old. However, I have seen a number of older drivers whose problems walking make me wonder if they could ever move their feet quickly enough to respond to an emergency.

I think there should be powers for the police or medical services to suspend drivers for potentially dangerous physical conditions. There could then be a more detailed enquiry if the driver wanted it lifted.

Some people will find this idea too authoritarian and restricting freedom. However, my view is everyone deserves their safety protecting.

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - Ordovices

I am not ageist ,anti young or old. However, I have seen a number of older drivers whose problems walking make me wonder if they could ever move their feet quickly enough to respond to an emergency.

However, my view is everyone deserves their safety protecting.

Statistically, banning everyone under 59 years old from driving would go some way to achieve your second point, and I would be one of those banned!

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - skidpan

I think there should be powers for the police or medical services to suspend drivers for potentially dangerous physical conditions. There could then be a more detailed enquiry if the driver wanted it lifted.

There are Driver Assesment centres around the country that carry out this work. Following an assessment if they feel that the driver is unsafe they have the power to suspend their licence on the spot but in routine cases they report to the DVLA whose experts make a decision.

But drivers need referring to them before they can do their work and it normally only the honest amongst us who actually inform the DVLA of changes in our health that may affect our ability to drive safely.

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - scot22

I am sincerely trying to understand your point. I have some knowledge of analysing data and, while your comment is true, banning everyone from driving would go even further. Obviously, their safety is still at risk from falling objects etc.

My comments were intended to be reasonable. It is not looking at any kind of wholesale blanket ban - or have I missed something ?

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - Wackyracer

The suggestion of general health reminds me of a program I saw where an elderly woman had her licence revoked due to a sleep disorder similar to narcolepsy.

She was adamant that she did not suffer from this disorder and she appealed. She was offered to take an extended driving test which she failed due to a few dangerous faults in her driving. This was met by her saying that she didn't normally drive in that area, it was rush hour and she did not normally drive at that time of day etc.

She even went as far as paying a specialist clinic to assess her to prove she didn't have this sleeping disorder but, the clinic found that she did have the disorder and again she started to argue that it wouldn't happen to her while she was driving. She finally made the funniest statement when she said "every other driver on the road is more dangerous than me".

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - scot22

This is an excellent example of some people's attitude to the responsibility of driving.

It is important to emphasise that particular groups of people should not be demonised. Any individual may become a risk when driving and should be stopped as soon as possible.

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - Avant

I think Ordovices's point, although made elliptically, is that statistics and their analysis make little sense in this area.

There are some people who can drive safely in their 90s, others whose senses deteriorate at a much earlier age. There are some who are such unnatural drivers - scraping through their test at the umpteenth attempt - who are a menace whatever age they are.

We're lucky that the great majority of drivers are competent enough, so that we can go out on the roads with a good chance of not having an accident. I'm not convinced that any further legislation would achieve very much.

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - scot22

I had may no reference to statistics, not considering them relevant to this. Purely common sense ? If people who are unfit to drive are not allowed then surely that must be helpful.

Anyone hurt by an accident is not interested in the statistical probability that it would have happened.

It also seems clear that there are people ( I know of one) who are too selfish to stop driving.

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - Andrew-T

I think Ordovices's point, although made elliptically, is that statistics and their analysis make little sense in this area.

Avant, I like this erudite term. I guess it may mean that Ordo is not presenting a circular argument? :-(

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - hillman

"Hillman has included something which I've also thought about. I find my neck mobility makes the over the shoulder glance difficult ( I make sure I do it but feel it could be more effective). Hillman, did you devise your own stretches ? or is there a book you could recommend please ?"

Sorry about the delay Scot22. When I was in my mid 40s I started to get a stiff neck that was becoming awkward. I was told that it was due to stress bringing on arthritis. I worked with one guy who’d had to stop driving because he had difficulty in turning his head to look sideways so I knew that I had to deal with it. I started a neck exercise regime that entailed turning my head as far as I could (without straining !) from left to right ten times each morning. I later added to that by rolling my head on my shoulders ten times. Soon my neck was free. I also do other stretching exercises to keep my joints free. All excercises are of my own devising, but copied from other sources. I’m in my 80th year now and slowing down so I do it when I remember, perhaps twice a week.

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - hillman

“I do not enjoy driving at night, but cope.” Can you tell me anybody who does ?

I do!

Alan1302, masochist !!

In Zambia on the dirt roads it is relatively easy to see pedestrians walking on the road away from you, but not so easy when they are walking toward you. Generally pedestrians walk on the left hand side so you drive up behind them. Those who walk are almost always barefooted and the soles of the feet are white and reflect strongly the light from the headlights so you can see them from a long distance. I’ve been giving a lift to a friend who recognised their uncle by his walk and asked me to stop to include him in the lift.

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - scot22

Thanks hillman. I'll give it a go. In my mid 60s I am going to take up tai chi. Obviously exercise is healthy but also think it helps perform better when driving.

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - oldroverboy.

Have now had my scheduled eye test,

new glasses, some sign of cataract right eye and deterioration of vision ok to drive. left eye 20/20.

Raid the piggy bank...

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - scot22

Pleased to hear it, shame for the piggy bank.

Impossible to answer question - how many are not O.K. to drive ?

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - RichT54

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jul/26/cassies-law-609-drivers-lose-licence-after-tougher-police-power-on-eye-tests

Death of 16-year-old Cassie McCord in 2011 prompted new powers allowing police to strip drivers of their licences if they fail a roadside eye test

Hundreds of motorists have had their driving licence revoked after failing roadside eye tests under new police powers, figures have shown.

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - scot22

Thanks Rich. That is something I, and possibly others, was totally unaware of. Perhaps if publicity about it were to be repeated annually those selfish drivers might be prompted to take some action.

Unlike drink driving (which is horrendous) I do not recall seeing any campaigns about physical fitness(including eyesight) to drive. I am excepting the valuable messages about not driving when tired.

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - MrDanno

Even if they had taken his licence away, would it really have stopped him driving? He had been told by the police not to drive and ignored them.

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - alan1302

It's more likely to stop someone driving thatn just telling them they should do.

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - DirtyDieselDogg

No indeed I do not, my hearing is entirely satisfactory.

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - alastairq

I have my eyesight checked FOC, every year.

This happens due to a close relative [parent] having suffered glaucoma.

Even though that parent has been deceased for decades.

I have , last year, renewed my vocational licence categories [C, C+E, D,D+E]...where a sight test is now part of the renewal medical.

Luckily, I managed to combine the two....as there is a 3 month period within which a recent sight test is valid for the licence medical.

Only cost me an admin fee.

As I am well over 60 years old, I expect to have to repeat this every year, shortly.

Luckily my mental age isn't part of the assessment.

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - focussed

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jul/26/cassies-law-609-drivers-lose-licence-after-tougher-police-power-on-eye-tests

Death of 16-year-old Cassie McCord in 2011 prompted new powers allowing police to strip drivers of their licences if they fail a roadside eye test

Hundreds of motorists have had their driving licence revoked after failing roadside eye tests under new police powers, figures have shown.

Can't be true-All traffic police are allowed to request that a driver take a standard vision test-ie read a standard number plate :-

You must be able to read (with glasses or contact lenses, if necessary) a car number plate made after 1 September 2001 from 20 metres.

If the subject fails that test the attending police officer does not have the statutory legal force to
stop the subect driving away after failing that test.
Do you have your eyesight checked ? - balleballe

Pleased to hear it, shame for the piggy bank.

Impossible to answer question - how many are not O.K. to drive ?

From my experience around 2-3% of the people I see for eye tests who do not currently wear specs are clearly not legal due to their unaided vision.

They often seem shocked when I tell them - then after they're shown 'with and without' they can't believe how poor their vision actually is

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - barney100

People are different, the age police don't take this into account. There is a 95 year old lady in Wales giving driving lessons successfully,want to tell Stirling Moss he's too old to drive? Granted you should have your eyes tested regularly and if the optician dosen't tell you your eyes are not good enough to drive then only you will know if you can concentrate well enough to drive safely.

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - RT

People are different, the age police don't take this into account. There is a 95 year old lady in Wales giving driving lessons successfully,want to tell Stirling Moss he's too old to drive? Granted you should have your eyes tested regularly and if the optician dosen't tell you your eyes are not good enough to drive then only you will know if you can concentrate well enough to drive safely.

Judging by the number of "grace & favour" Rovers (yes that long ago) he wrote off, it's about time people used a different example of driving ability

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - barney100

Don't know anything about grace and favour Rovers but I know lots of people in their late seventies and early eighties who drive very well both the car and the golf ball. Is that example ok? The 95 year old lady seemed to be well in control too. I find the older drivers I know to take their driving and car maintainace seriously, they have regular eye tests too.

Do you have your eyesight checked ? - scot22

I agree barney that it is individual. However, there should be checks (at any age) to ensure that people are fit to drive. The consequences are too serious to have what, in my opinion, is a too slack system of controlling safety on the roads.

The eyesight check is just one example of a way to tighten up. There are a number of others, but that would need other threads. Unfortunately, until there is the political will improvements will not come.