Fair points Ted and HB and the others who are happy with them.
Much depends on what you expect from your cars, who pays for them and how long they are kept.
For the new car buyer who replaces before it gets too old it really doesn't matter how much electronic/automatic stuff is on a vehicle, up to a point, if you like it buy it or specify it from your company.
For those who keep cars long term, or those who buy used the choices are different, and this might not be the concern of the new buyer but it might reflect in new car sales in certain groups when a vehicle gets a reputation for being trouble and their used values plummet...Renault Laguna/Grande Espace anyone, other French (and some German now though image is keeping values up so far) cars swiftly following suit, take the 1.6 Diesel of Doom which also found its way into other marques, please take it.
Some cars get to a certain age and literally no one wants them, others because they are known as long life durable and simple fix will always sell, at the moment the country is awash with easy house bubble based credit and people are spending borrowed money like they did before 2008...the implications of this i leave to you...difference being can these latest cars be kept long term, i don't think so.
Of course people have had manual handbrakes fail, invariably through neglect and poor servicing, but the servicing and repair of manual handbrakes is in the most part easily done by any garage or competent DiYer and easily affordable.
I freely admit i'm a luddite here, i have no intention of buying a car designed later than that sweet spot reached in the 90's (if i did it would probably be a Toyota hybrid) built up to about 04, they do everything SWMBO and i want and if chosen carefully and looked after can last decades...do you think a 2015 car with EPB DSG 14 airbags variable digital this that and the other will be similarly long lived?
I'm not looking forward to my next lorry, 2017 the present steed will come to the end of its lease, i'm stuck with an automated manual box (standard issue now cos no ones apparently capable of driving a lorry any more) but at least i have a manual variable pressure air parking brake, so i'm not forced to use hill hold to control it, when the replacement comes it will almost certainly have an EPB and HH might be the only choice then.
How the new will translate into getting into some of the unique places we have to put tankers to unload is anyone guess, we've had clutch failures already due to the vehicles being wholly incapable of full power jack knife reverses on hills at one customer unless you trick them by switching off all the electronics and dump air from certan axles to maximise traction, that sanction is bound to be programmed out over time and the newer drivers literally don't have a clue how to do it because they never had to learn in the first place, not their fault they didn't have to.
By 2025 will anyone apart from classic car owners and luddites be able to perform a hill start or other fine control of a vehicle on their own without the computer doing it for them? just how far will this fetish for automation go.
Edited by gordonbennet on 11/06/2015 at 13:56
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