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Toyota Yaris - MOT retest: labour charges for faulty bulbs? - mikem004
Yaris 1.0 petrol, 2002

What's your estimate of a fair price for £45 MOT test + oil & filter change + same-day retest due to faulty light bulb on rear plate?

The final £140 bill seemed a bit steep. Light bulb costs pennies and takes a minute to change.
Toyota Yaris - MOT retest: labour charges for faulty bulbs? - skidpan

If you did not ask for a quotation for the work before giving the go ahead you are stuffed. Pay the bill and be happy.

But whilst £140 may appear quite a bit of cash I would say its not a rip off price especially since on some cars changing bulbs is not a "minute job" as you appear to think. If it was that simple why did you not check the bulbs and change it before the MOT.

MOT failure for bulbs and tyres is just owner idleness or stupidity.

Toyota Yaris - MOT retest: labour charges for faulty bulbs? - RobJP

So you paid £90-ish for an oil/filter change ?

It's a bit steep. But not ridiculously so.

Of course, the way to avoid getting 'ripped off' for bulb changes is to DO IT YOURSELF. After all, if the bulb only costs pennies, and fitting it only takes a minute, then why wouldn't you have done so ?

Slight edit : I'm getting at the same thing skidpan did. But doing it with added free sarcasm

Edited by RobJP on 21/05/2015 at 17:33

Toyota Yaris - MOT retest: labour charges for faulty bulbs? - gordonbennet

Hmm, good oil and filter call it £30, bulb £1 tops, 1 hours easy DiY, wash hands, submit car for MOT dropping the used oil into recycling bank on the way.

Toyota Yaris - MOT retest: labour charges for faulty bulbs? - Railroad.
The standard MOT test fee in 2013 when I last carried out one was £54.85. If your garage did yours for £40 then this was an incentive to get you in through the door, and it obviously worked. I don't think £140 is at all unreasonable for an MOT, replacement bulbs, oil and filter change and VAT.
Toyota Yaris - MOT retest: labour charges for faulty bulbs? - Wackyracer
The standard MOT test fee in 2013 when I last carried out one was £54.85. If your garage did yours for £40 then this was an incentive to get you in through the door.

This is the reason I don't ever go to garages that offer cut price MOT's, The hidden agenda can be they start looking for work that really does not need doing.

However, as you and others said. In this case I don't think the charge is that bad.

Toyota Yaris - MOT retest: labour charges for faulty bulbs? - mikem004

Some people are essentially saying I should perform a section of the MOT myself, before submitting the car.

That's asking a bit much. I do a quick check of the headlights, indicators and brake lights, wipers and screen wash level. Like most people, I suspect.

If a garage is advertising MOTs for 45 quid and then attempts to recoup some money in invisible charges, it is sharp practice. To say the least.

Needless to say, the garage did not inform me of the fail item until it was time to pay the bill.

And £90 for an oil/filter is way over the odds.

Toyota Yaris - MOT retest: labour charges for faulty bulbs? - daveyjp
So no evidence the bulb had even failed. Potentially a nice earner for the garage. I always stay for MOTs, gives me a chance to have a good look under the car.
Toyota Yaris - MOT retest: labour charges for faulty bulbs? - gordonbennet

It makes sense to check items on your car that you are capable of before sending it in for MOT test, easier to spend 20 minutes at home pre checking than have a failed MOT then the quick as you can get it done faff of getting things fixed then resubmit and hope for a free retest.

If you want a one stop shop and let them get on with it with no idea what charges might be involved, there is little point in complaining afterwards, you're paying for convenience...all you can do is vote with your feet regarding the garage you think have robbed you.

Toyota Yaris - MOT retest: labour charges for faulty bulbs? - galileo

The OP does not tell us whether he asked for MOT fail items to be fixed or just asked for MOT and oil/filter change.

If the first option, he is lucky it was only bulbs.

Toyota Yaris - MOT retest: labour charges for faulty bulbs? - bathtub tom

>>And £90 for an oil/filter is way over the odds.

I've just paid £150 for, what's basically, an oil and filter change on a one-year-old Yaris at a main dealer.

If the OP can't be bothered to wander round his car for five minutes, switching on various light settings and checking them and then complaining when he's charged for someone else doing it, then I think he's too stupid to be allowed out with other motorists.

I wonder what his hourly rate is?

Toyota Yaris - MOT retest: labour charges for faulty bulbs? - mikem004

You paid £150 for an oil change, and you are calling me stupid?

Toyota Yaris - MOT retest: labour charges for faulty bulbs? - Wackyracer

It makes sense to check items on your car that you are capable of before sending it in for MOT test, easier to spend 20 minutes at home pre checking than have a failed MOT then the quick as you can get it done faff of getting things fixed then resubmit and hope for a free retest.

I always give them a once over before taking them in but, last time one of the stop lamp bulbs must have blown on the way to the MOT or during the test. They did it without asking but, charged £3.50 for doing it. I jokingly said "for £3.50 it had better be a premium quality bulb".

They made a point of showing me a bulb with thermionic evaporation ( or "it's all black" as they put it) which did make me wonder if it was a bulb from my car or just one they use to show to customers when they want to top up the till on slow days.

Toyota Yaris - MOT retest: labour charges for faulty bulbs? - old-school-tech

£3.50 for putting a new bulb in, and your questioning it? I would have told you to fit it yourself...I see "black" bulbs all the time, and often they still work in this condition, but very dim..

It probably wasn't your bulb they showed you but one they keep to show people what can happen to bulbs and justify why they replaced it, but in my opinion if people need convincing that your not ripping them off just by replacing a bulb then I wouldn't bother, sadly thats the world we live in, some people don't check anything when they come in for an MOT themselves, and then want to know how and why your charging them for every little thing,

If we really wanted to make a few quid out of MOT failures there are a lot of easier ways to do it.

Toyota Yaris - MOT retest: labour charges for faulty bulbs? - Wackyracer

£3.50 for putting a new bulb in, and your questioning it? I would have told you to fit it yourself...I see "black" bulbs all the time, and often they still work in this condition, but very dim..

I wouldn't say I was questioning it, I was just pointing out that as much as you check your car for operation and condition of everything that things can and do fail on route to, during or from an MOT test.

I would investigate the reason why any lamp on a car of mine appears to look dim compared to the other side, I hate seeing cars with poor lighting.

It probably wasn't your bulb they showed you but one they keep to show people what can happen to bulbs and justify why they replaced it, but in my opinion if people need convincing that your not ripping them off just by replacing a bulb then I wouldn't bother

Exactly! Why bother to show someone a blown bulb? It's not like it is unusual for a bulb to blow and in my opinion just makes people more curious as to why they are emphasising the point.

, sadly thats the world we live in, some people don't check anything when they come in for an MOT themselves, and then want to know how and why your charging them for every little thing,If we really wanted to make a few quid out of MOT failures there are a lot of easier ways to do it.

Very true! Sadly the motor trade have a bad reputation for ripping people off and unless you personally know the garage owners well, It give you a reason to suspect dishonesty or poor workmanship.

On the flip side there are drivers who never bother maintaining their cars and then wonder why it fails an MOT on Wiper blades that are falling apart, The stop light that has not been working for the past 9 months etc.

Toyota Yaris - MOT retest: labour charges for faulty bulbs? - nortones2

should get points on the licence for wilful neglect:)

Toyota Yaris - MOT retest: labour charges for faulty bulbs? - madf

I have changed a lightbulb on a mark 1 Yaris. Took me - first time ever on the car - about 20 minutes. Very fiddly - and if it's the side by the battery, i's easier to remove teh battery if you have big hands.

A Yaris simple service at a Toyoota dealer is c £180..