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Well i can't see anything on the road that could have provoked it and your driving looked smooth enough to me, no sudden acceleration or threepenny bit steering inputs.
Have you checked the pressures, make sure some clot hasn't shoved 'em up to full high speed full load settings.
It was several sudden unprovoked broadsides like that in my MB (fortunately RWD so fairly easily recovered) on the Federals i tried that saw them removed as soon as the Uniroyal Rainsport 3's arrived couple of days later, first and last time i try budgets.
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Thanks, I thought the driving wasn't too bad, but you never know. They are budget tyres. Good point about the tyres, the car was serviced after I checked the pressures, you never know, the service might have over inflated them.
I must admit since getting these new tyres the car has felt oddly bouncy at times, and not entirely kosher on corners. And oddly noisy since they are supposed to be very quiet. Makes me wonder how they measure these things.
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How very strange! As GB says, the driving looks smooth, clearly not overly fast compared to other traffic so nothing obvious to cause it other than something on the road, a problem with the tyres (could be over inflation or just bad tyres), or an unintentional jab on the gas. Somehow that last option seems the most unlikely.
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Thanks, I thought the driving wasn't too bad, but you never know. They are budget tyres. Good point about the tyres, the car was serviced after I checked the pressures, you never know, the service might have over inflated them.
I must admit since getting these new tyres the car has felt oddly bouncy at times, and not entirely kosher on corners. And oddly noisy since they are supposed to be very quiet. Makes me wonder how they measure these things.
Check rear shock absorners for wear/fluid leak - bounce test..
All you need is one shock absorber to fail and you may skid ...
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Front pressures 30 and 34, recommended 29.
Back pressures 30 and 30, recommended 26.
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Oh, and now all down to the recommended unloaded values!
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Looked like lift off oversteer to me just after black car in front pulls out, you lift off a bit, weight transfers to front wheels and rears lose weight and grip. This would be exacerbated by lower grip duecti dodgy tyres or greasy surface.
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A combination of road surface conditions and speed. For most of April there was very little rain so the road surface will be contaminated with diesel, oil, petrol, sap from the adjacent trees.
From the video it is drizzling - evidence of cars with wipers on. With slight rainfall the contaminants produce a very slippery surface. Very similar to the old police training skidpans which were oil soaked and sprayed with water.
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As mentioned earlier, lift-off oversteer.
Edited by the_bandit on 06/05/2015 at 12:49
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Lift off oversteer at approx 32mph on a huge roundabout in a modern car driven smoothly?
I would expect any car made after 1980 to be capable of full on braking at that point in the roundabout without breaking traction, let alone having to panic about lifting off because you've just deviated from the straight.
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I saw this video and thought of this thread - www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRIEz_YjVIc
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What an obnoxious character. However, thanks for the link, the basic message is that the handling was poor. I am convinced the handling of my car is not right. Simple braking is fine, but cornering is odd sometimes. Since a tyre is a mix of steel and rubber, it makes sense that cornering should depend on the design.
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what tyres did you have fitted before?
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Originally it had Hankook Ecos, seemed good. Then some Continental energy savers on the front, okay, not so quiet.
The car went in for a brake fluid change, and a check, they want to get work, but found nothing. So I assume it is okay.
I am wondering whether to ditch these tyres soon, or ditch all when the fronts are replaced.
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I had a similarly unexpected incident a few years ago, fortunately though I didn't rotate after I remembered my Touring Car training (!) and booted it to get it straight again. This was the same car (not very old, probably about three yers old at the time) that also developed a strange motion on high speed corners - hard to describe, but a sort of floaty squirming motion - which turned out not to be tracking, toe, camber, shocks or any of the ususal suspects but a broken spring.
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Excellent dash cam.
It's like watching a car driving video game!
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Have you thought of rubber on the road surface ? After a dry spell, and it doesn't have to be a long one in the case of a roundabout, the road gets covered with a fine film of rubber. The first rain leaves it very slippery. I've had a few frights like that.
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Daveyjp mentioned something similar earlier. No doubt it is possible, but I have no evidence either way. I still think these tyres are not quite right though, even if they were not the cause.
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IMHO lift-off oversteer caused by over inflated tyres and slippery conditions. Over inflated tyres will stay stone cold in those conditions.
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>IMHO lift-off oversteer caused by over inflated tyres and slippery conditions. Over >inflated tyres will stay stone cold in those conditions.
Exactly what i was think when i commented earlier. The OP suggests this is his normal style of driving, which for me is quite worrying
Recommend changing the driving style so that he is braking on entry to the roundabout and then use steady power to go around would be far safe, with smoother turning of the steering wheel.
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>IMHO lift-off oversteer caused by over inflated tyres and slippery conditions. Over >inflated tyres will stay stone cold in those conditions.
Exactly what i was think when i commented earlier. The OP suggests this is his normal style of driving, which for me is quite worrying
Recommend changing the driving style so that he is braking on entry to the roundabout and then use steady power to go around would be far safe, with smoother turning of the steering wheel.
The tyres were checked after the first skid and found to be a few PSI over the recommended values (VW give values for light and heavy loads). They were adjusted according to the VW figures.
The steering looks pretty smooth to me, and some others have said the same. In the first video I brake on approach then accelerate on entry. In the second I am going pretty slowly, with very good visability, and follow the cars in front. The only comment on steering is that I deliberately did not take the direct line on exit, but was going to carry on a little bit then turn, to feel for any wobble through the wheels, which I have noticed before.
I think your posts are obnoxious and not constructive.
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