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Alternative - Winston500


Dr. Simoncini discovered that the cause of this terrible illness is a fungus and tried hard to persuade scientists how wrong are the actual theories on cancer. His therapy based on the strongest antifungal substance, sodium bicarbonate, is harmless and very effective and should be adopted all over the world.

In 1996 Dr. Simoncini received his Ph.D. in Philosophy from La Sapienza University. From 2000 to 2004 he devoted his focus to Oncology, also at La Sapienza University.Throughout his medical career, Dr. Simoncini pursued his personal theories regarding cancer. His first terminal patient, who went into remission in 1981, is still alive and well today.

Study showed that sodium bicarbonate is not only a safer, cheaper cancer remedy, it is more effective than dichloroacetate.

Dr Tullio Simoncini explaining the simple cure for cancer


Simoncini’s personality is pervaded by a strong humanitarianism which triggered him to reflect on how little and inadequate medicine’s fundamental knowledge is, as shown by the impotence of medicine when faced by the pain of patients. This empathy for the pain of others has been the constant motivator on the path of his personal life.

G. Edward Griffin - The Collectivist Conspiracy


Every Cancer Can be Cured in Weeks explains Dr. Leonard Coldwell


Edited by Avant on 12/04/2015 at 00:30

Alternative - FP

"...the simple cure for cancer."

To anyone who understands even a small amount about cancer, that should set the alarm-bells ringing. Cancer is not one disease, but many, and the very idea that there is one cause ("a fungus", for goodness' sake) and one cure is laughable. We know that genetics, the environment, life-styles and even age are involved and that sometimes a small trigger is all that differentiates a cancer victim from someone who remains cancer-free.

What about these so-called cancer experts cited by the OP?

There is little to recommend Dr Tullio Simoncini. He claims cancer is the result of an overgrowth of candida albicans (a fungus that infects oral and vaginal tissues) and prescribes sodium bicarbonate injections. I can find no evidence that a terminal cancer patient from years ago is still alive after this treatment, as the OP claims. Simoncini’s work has never been subjected to clinical trials and the fact that a patient died after being treated in this way is unsurprising; he was convicted of manslaughter in 2006. tinyurl.com/79flko

G. Edward Griffin has no medical qualifications, but that does not prevent him from promoting various conspiracy theories, including those concerning the political and healthcare systems. He does not believe HIV causes AIDS and he promotes the view that cancer is caused by a nutritional deficiency, curable by the consumption of amygdalin, a poisonous substance found in certain fruit. While chemotherapy also involves the administration of potentially poisonous substances, in balance the effect on the body is positive, in that the cancer cells are damaged more than healthy ones, or that in the long run, the healthy cells will recover. Amygdalin, administered as laetrile, has been shown to have no effect on cancer. tinyurl.com/aacdak8

As for "Dr" Leonard Coldwell (aka Bernd Klein/Bernd Witchner) - his qualification is a dubious PhD and he has no medical qualifications whatsoever. His main claim to recent fame is his bizarre assertion that Angelina Jolie's double mastectomy amounts to "potentially making millions by mutilating herself". http://tinyurl.com/kvqfvpq

What disturbs me is that cancer sufferers and their families and friends are often so vulnerable emotionally, particularly if the prognosis is poor, that they will grasp at anything that offers hope. After many years working as a healthcare professional (note - I am not qualified as a doctor) in a hospice, I am convinced that so-called conventional therapies are the only way to go. Treatments are improving all the time; long ago (in the 1970s) we passed the milestone that statistically, most cancers that are diagnosed and treated by mainstream medicine are “cured” – in the sense that they do not return within five years or more. However, as I said before, cancer is not one disease, and some cancers remain very difficult to treat, but I would never, ever, suggest a cancer-sufferer should abandon conventional treatment for any “alternative” therapy.

Apologies for the very long post, but I found the misinformation in the original post disturbing because I know how some people might react to it.

Edited by FP on 11/04/2015 at 21:41

Alternative - Leif
I am surprised you had sufficient patience to write such a cogent reply. As you say, these charlatans exploit people who are emotionally vulnerable.
Alternative - Avant

I trust FP's judgement more than the doubtful characters mentioned by the OP, so I have removed the links.

Alternative - scot22

I do appreciate the difficulties of ensuring that a forum is fairly moderated - a thankless task usually, but thanks.

However, I think the post should be removed completely. FPs post is appreciated and provides a counter balance. However.............

Incidentally it is a shame that complementary therapies are often misdescribed as alternative. Complementary can frequently make you feel better : other claims are delusional.

Alternative - FP

I agree with much of what Scot says, though I feel it's pointless to censor or remove the original post - these crazy ideas are out there and they're not going away, so we need to know what they are and why they're bad.

The "other" therapies he mentions are only "alternative" if people choose to think of them that way, or are somehow deluded into so doing. Many, like reiki, acupuncture, reflexology and so forth are well established in palliative care, where their role is truly "complementary" and can enhance the benefits of "mainstream" treatments.

In the case of a patient undergoing chemotherapy, which can have distressing side-effects, complementary therapies can counteract some of these and there is no question that, if we consider quality of life, they have a valuable role to play.

I suspect our original poster, to judge from the other thread he started, is a conspiracy theorist who, like others of his ilk, tries to convince people that he has a unique insight into something that the rest of us mugs don't get.

Wasn't there someone else doing that recently with stuff about the moon landings?

If you google "conspiracy theories" you'll have far more fun than you have time for on a nice day like today. There really is a bonkers world out there.

Edited by FP on 12/04/2015 at 13:04

Alternative - scot22

You are right FP. My response was emotional rather than thoughtful.

I acknowledge your correct judgement Avant : well moderated.

I know a complementary therapist well and she is very careful to stress to potential clients that she is not offering 'cures' for conditons that need correct medical care given by qualified professionals. Indeed she gets quite angry about the charlatans who exploit vulnerability.

Hopefully there can be reasoned integration of a holistic approach to people's well being.

Alternative - brum

I wonder what winston's thought for the day will be tomorrow?

Time travel finally made cheap and practical?

Edited by brum on 12/04/2015 at 17:26

Alternative - FP

"I know a complementary therapist well and she is very careful to stress to potential clients that she is not offering 'cures' for conditons that need correct medical care given by qualified professionals."

Quite right.

Best practice in the training of complementary therapists (as I understand it) is to stress that if the therapist concludes (either is told by the patient, or forms a judgment independently) that there is a health issue not being currently dealt with, then they should tactfully advise the patient to consult a doctor, avoiding sounding alarmist. The therapist should be trained never to accept responsibility for the cure of anything and should never offer a medical diagnosis.

Apart from anything else, there could be legal repercussions.

I am particularly concerned about minimally and/or poorly trained therapists who claim to be able to tell you all kinds of things about your medical history and current ailments - including some you didn't know you had.

Alternative - concrete

Well done FP. A very good synopsis of the situation. As you say the patients are often emotionally vulnerable and will grasp at straws. I remember swmbo's elder sister when she had cancer. No treatment would even halt it never mind cure it. She fell pray to a charlatan with some hocus pocus about crystal therapy. We all said nothing, simply because she was dying and it made her feel slightly better and relaxed her. In that respect it was a simple salve and no where near a cure. She died, morphine assisted, in relative peace.

As an excercise the therapy was sort of useful in a mild relaxing way, but it was touted as a possible cure. When I challenged the person afterwards he gave me all sorts of pyschobabble about internal energy being released etc etc. I sent him away with a flea in his ear. Pity they are not registered or regulated as i am sure some have achieved real comfort at times but the quacks give them all a bad name.

Cheers Concrete

Alternative - Andrew-T

"I know a complementary therapist well and she is very careful to stress to potential clients that she is not offering 'cures' for conditons that need correct medical care given by qualified professionals."

Quite right.

Of course, anyone watching the recent Poldark will get an idea of the treatments offered by the 'qualified professionals' about 200 years ago. Things have moved on a lot, but then they will move on again I'm sure.

Had to laugh about Sod.Bicarb. being a miracle cure though.

Edited by Andrew-T on 14/04/2015 at 13:35

Alternative - scot22

In the light of our present knowledge then treatment should be by qualified professionals. I agree with you that things will move on when there is more knowledge.

What qualifications were available about 200 years ago ?