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LED or Xenon Headlamps - Smileyman

I have a question about headlamps. Which are better for night time dipped beam driving on unlit roads, LED or Xenon gas discharge? (ie not H4 or H7 bulbs with Xenon gas). How do I define better – gives the greatest benefit to the driver in terms of light spread and ability to illuminate the road ahead. I note that nanny EU has insisted any car fitted with Xenon headlamps has washers and are self-levelling, but this does not appear to be the case for LED headlamps. I also note that some motoring magazines have run comparative testing for different versions of H7 (or H4, I’m not sure) halogen headlamps, but not included LED or Xenon in their tests.

Whilst asking, I know many drivers complain the brightness of poorly aligned Xenon headlamps sometimes blind oncoming drivers, are LED headlamps more friendly towards oncoming traffic?

LED or Xenon Headlamps - Hamsafar

Of course LED are better, but they are a £1500 option on some cars or free on a few £70,000+ cars. www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHBbEcHW8PI&spfreload=...0

If you are taking about retrofittingLED fairy lights into a halogen headlamp, that would just be attrocious.

Edited by Hamsafar on 16/11/2014 at 17:57

LED or Xenon Headlamps - Smileyman

Nissan Pulsar and Seat Leon with LED, or Xenon on cars such as Skoda Octavia, some Volvos for example. These are ordinary cars, albeit top of the range options, not expensive super cars.

And certainly not the fairy dayglow LED's use as DLR that are absolutely horrid to look at (and IMO ought to be banned)

LED or Xenon Headlamps - Hamsafar

Still a £1500 option though on the Leon so they had better be better.

LED or Xenon Headlamps - Happy Blue!

I have Xenon headlights. They are ok but i dont think I spend my money on them unless they came with the car. Decent halogens are fine. LED probably save fuel thats all.

LED or Xenon Headlamps - gordonbennet

The problem with ever brighter lights, is that the darkness beyond the reach of the light appears ever darker, coupled with ever more light destroying your night vision.

To me there is nothing worse than a super bright dipped beam with a very sharp cut off, much rather a slightly duller light (standard Halogens with quality bulbs are fine for me too) with a bit of scatter beyond the cut off point.

I too wouldn't be paying extra for either xenon or LED, nor the replacement costs when the things fail.

Don't get me started on the too camp by far fetish for DRL's.

Edited by gordonbennet on 16/11/2014 at 22:40

LED or Xenon Headlamps - HandCart

I agree with every point GB makes.

Also, LEDs should use much less power than filament bulbs, but I read somewhere (I think it might have been Tesla Cars' website) that some present implementations require fans on the back of them to keep them cool.. D'OH!!

LED or Xenon Headlamps - Hamsafar

The LED headlights have more lumens per watt, and significntly more lumens in the implementation, but their main advantage is that the light can be much more accurately placed where it is needed and diverted or masked from where it is not wanted due to multiple moveable light sources and optical elements in conjunction with cameras.

e.g. www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYSix5r38qY&spfreload=...0

One problem is they create their heat in a much smaller and less heat tolerating substrate so they are thermally mounted on fan cooled aluminium heatsinks. The warm air is then used to keep the lenses dry and frost free.

I have only noticed LED headlights twice, once on a Lexus LS and on an Audi A8L pulling out of the dealership and that was only when admiring the cars for other reasons, so I don't think they are noticeable like HID was when it first came out on BMWs a quarter of a century ago and stuck out amongst the amber halogens.

Edited by Hamsafar on 17/11/2014 at 10:10

LED or Xenon Headlamps - Andrew-T

Whilst asking, I know many drivers complain the brightness of poorly aligned Xenon headlamps sometimes blind oncoming drivers, are LED headlamps more friendly towards oncoming traffic?

Other things being equal (alignment, lamp design etc) It seems clear to me that improving visibility for the driver by using more 'candlepower' also creates more glare for oncoming traffic, especially in the wet or over gentle summits. A compromise has to be made somewhere.

LED or Xenon Headlamps - FP

I agree whole-heartedly about this.

There has been a gradual build-up in recent years of overkill when it comes to forward lighting. It's compounded by the self-levelling technology that, in practice, does not work fast enough, and further compounded by the ubiquitous muppets who insist on switching on their foglamps. (It used to be a habit of the reverse-baseball-cap fraternity, but now seems to be all and sundry. Maybe it's a response to what they see coming towards them. A vicious circle?)

On a wet road things can be very uncomfortable for those faced with this.

I regularly drive at around 10:00 - 10:30 in the evenings and frequently get trapped behind drivers who are obviously struggling with oncoming lights.

Edited by FP on 17/11/2014 at 10:39

LED or Xenon Headlamps - Andrew-T

Maybe it's a response to what they see coming towards them. A vicious circle?)

On a wet road things can be very uncomfortable for those faced with this.

For myself, sometimes the only sane response when blinded by a facing car is to switch to main beam. It's to see, not simply to retaliate.