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All - Rear Windows - Les42

Why do most manufacturers make a large rear windscreen on the vehicles and then spend money blacking out large areas on the inside, making the vehicle clausrtophobic?. It is like the fad for hatching off large ares of road so that you do not drive on it, why build it in the first place? Safety run offs excluded.

All - Rear Windows - scot22

It is simply crazy. Unfortunately car design now seems to be dominated by an obsession with appearance rather than practicality.

On a personal level I have discounted buying a number of cars because of, in my opinion,

a dangerous lack of visibility.

All - Rear Windows - Andrew-T

Why do most manufacturers make a large rear windscreen on the vehicles and then spend money blacking out large areas on the inside, making the vehicle claustrophobic?

I agree with this sentiment, up to a point. But allow for (a) gluing the edges to the metal frame (b) the printed circuitry for the heater element and (c) aiming for continuous glass on the exterior, and the transparent area must be much less than the overall glass.

Being able to see out seems to take a steadily lower priority on the stylist's drawing board, possibly working towards the promised driverless cars we read about. Strange though that some models fit a 'panoramic glass roof' which can't be opened and only serves to increase the need for using the air-con.

All - Rear Windows - gordonbennet

Rear visibility isn't a deal breaker for me so long as the vehicle has sensibly sized well sited rectangular door mirrors.

Insignia takes the gold medal for the most poorly sited utterly useless door mirrors its my privelidge to not use, you'd be better off with a 2" x 1" make up mirror on a stick, however lots of others cars are close runners up.

All - Rear Windows - scot22

Yes, I think that is more sensible and look at individual cars. However, as you say, there are too many useless door mirrors.

All - Rear Windows - christo

On some cars, the car manufacturers have done this to conceal the outside of the hatchback or estate car rear door frame, for appearance purposes. I have no problem with it, there are more important things in life!

All - Rear Windows - skidpan

Visibility is one of the things you can check on a test drive. If you are not happy with it don't buy the car.

How hard can it be.

All - Rear Windows - scot22

No, it is not hard and people do.

Christo you can reduce almost anything by saying there are more important things in life. I really think it a patronising comment. There are more important things in life than bothering to tell people there are more important things in life - they already know!!!!

All - Rear Windows - drd63
My DS5 is about as guilty as they come and to make matters worse the swept area is minute. Still it looks great and has good mirrors and a reversing camera and if I'm not reversing what do I care about what's going on behind me? Only joking, do I need to make that clear? Often worried some here take things rather seriously.
All - Rear Windows - scot22

This forum definitely needs a like button.

All - Rear Windows - jc2

A "+" sign will do.

All - Rear Windows - The-Mechanic

The Vauxhall Insignia has pretty appalling rearward vision, the estate more so than the hatch. The estate has pillar to pillar wrap around glass bit at least a third of it is blacked out as the metalwork of the tailgate surround is so wide. I can see the thinking of this design is to give the illusion of smooth, all round glass but the actual visibility from the inside is on par with a ship's porthole.

The shape of the interior mirror is also poor, being tapered the opposite way to the taper of the blacked out rear glass giving even less vision.

This is only one example of form over function and I'm sure there's many more design led vehicles with vision problems out there.

All - Rear Windows - Andrew-T
Often worried some here take things rather seriously.

Without wishing to sound too serious, may I say that I think being able to see out of my car is something I do take seriously. And I feel car makers should too.

The problem is that drivers have to be continually persuaded that a new car will be more worth having than the one (or two) nearly all of us already have. This is now down to the stylists more than the engineers.

All - Rear Windows - colinh

Pushes up the sale of expensive (profitable) options such as parking sensors and reversing cameras

All - Rear Windows - davecooper
My current family hatchback has the pretty poor rearward vision which tends go along with current styling fads. No matter, I can live with this. However, it also has tinted rear windows which, put together with only one reversing light make reversing at night in a poorly or unlit road or car park extremely difficult. Thankfully it has rear parking sensors but I don't like to rely on these totally.
All - Rear Windows - gordonbennet
together with only one reversing light make reversing at night in a poorly or unlit road or car park extremely difficult.

The fad for that IS annoying, even our 07 Hilux had only one reversing light, absolutely useless, my sparky wired in two tiny spot lights with 55w halogen bulbs under the rear bumper, cured that problem.

All - Rear Windows - drd63

you cynic!!

All - Rear Windows - Avant

I know not everyone agrees but I am certainly one of those who thinks that rear visibility is important, even if you do have decent door mirrors.

One can never eliminate the risk of reversing into someone- particularly a child - but those who design cars should do all they can to minimise that risk.

All - Rear Windows - alan1302

but those who design cars should do all they can to minimise that risk.

You need people to buy cars designed with good rear visibility as well though - it's not all down to the designer. How many people would buy car that does not look as good but has better rearward vision?

All - Rear Windows - scot22

Yes, cars should be designed with safety as a priority. The safety elements are my number one priority. The message should be sent in car sales to the manufacturers. Sadly, too many people look for image above everything else. What is,'cool' needs to be made safety, not appearance.

All - Rear Windows - alan1302

Yes, cars should be designed with safety as a priority. The safety elements are my number one priority. The message should be sent in car sales to the manufacturers. Sadly, too many people look for image above everything else. What is,'cool' needs to be made safety, not appearance.

What car do you drive?

All - Rear Windows - Ordovices

Quite agree with the tideswell of opinion that rearward visibility is an absolute priority.

So let's ban vans and lorries from the road.

All - Rear Windows - RT

I thought that poor rearward vision was the reason that mirrors became mandatory - when was that? - 1914, that's a hundred years ago!

All - Rear Windows - scot22

Alan, I drive a Volvo C30. All round vision is excellent in my opinion. Its not perfect but the closest I could afford. Hoping to change to the new Volvo V40 when depreciation brings it into my price range. I prefer a medium size car and keep an open mind as to choice of car ( obviously in line with my criteria )

Mirrors became mandatory to improve vision. I cannot see a car overtaking me through the rear window. Mirrors are not able to reflect everything behind the car.