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Peugeot 407 SW 2.0HDi Auto (4 speed) 2005 - 136bhp - Onboard computer reading 45mpg real MPG 27mpg - Gladius82
Hello,

I recently purchased a low mileage (48k) 2005 Peugeot 407 SW 2.0HDi 136 Auto (4 speed) on a 54 plate with FSH.

I do quite a lot of miles and noticed in the first week that the fuel guage was going down pretty quick, despite the fact that the onboard computer was reading 45mpg. When I manually calculated the MPG it came out as an abysmal 27mpg. The second tank came back as 28mpg and the third 30mpg.

I've taken it to an independent garage and they couldn't find anything wrong. No fuel leaks, no diagnostic errors. It was fully serviced after the second tank of fuel, but the fuel economy has not really improved as the third tank where I got only 30mpg included a long trip, including motorway from Shrewsbury to Banbury.

The mechanic said it might be the diesel particulate filter (DPF) that is to blame.

Shouldn't a blocked DPF throw up an error?
Would a blocked DPF not allow the onboard computer to calculate the MPG correctly?

Any help/suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Anyone else experienced this? Absolutely love the car, but I only got it as I needed better fuel economy than the 29mpg I was getting from my V6 Rover 75!

Thank you
Gladius82
Peugeot 407 SW 2.0HDi Auto (4 speed) 2005 - 136bhp - Onboard computer reading 45mpg real MPG 27mpg - RobJP

Very first thing to check : take it for a 20-30 mile run, driving perfectly normally. When you stop at the end, place your hand on all of the wheels, in turn. Are any of them particularly warm or hot ? This will tell you if the brakes are dragging, which is always a decent first culprit to rule out, and can make an amazing difference to fuel economy.

If not that, then it might well be something like the torque converter slipping, with it being an auto box. I'd be more inclined to look there rather than the DPF clobbering your fuel economy

Peugeot 407 SW 2.0HDi Auto (4 speed) 2005 - 136bhp - Onboard computer reading 45mpg real MPG 27mpg - Gladius82

Very first thing to check : take it for a 20-30 mile run, driving perfectly normally. When you stop at the end, place your hand on all of the wheels, in turn. Are any of them particularly warm or hot ? This will tell you if the brakes are dragging, which is always a decent first culprit to rule out, and can make an amazing difference to fuel economy.

Thanks. I'll try that tonight.

If not that, then it might well be something like the torque converter slipping, with it being an auto box. I'd be more inclined to look there rather than the DPF clobbering your fuel economy

That sounds expensive, but will get that checked out if it's not the other problem.


Cheers.

Peugeot 407 SW 2.0HDi Auto (4 speed) 2005 - 136bhp - Onboard computer reading 45mpg real MPG 27mpg - Peter.N.

That won't of course account for the difference in actual and indicated mpg. If any one knows the answer to this I would be very interested.

I have a Peugeot 406 and a C5 both with the same engine and transmission, 2.0. Hdi, the 406 is indicating an average 52mpg which is near enough correct when checking with brim to brim fill ups, the C5 is also indicating around 52mpg but in real life is only doing about 42mpg.

Any ideas on either count?

Peugeot 407 SW 2.0HDi Auto (4 speed) 2005 - 136bhp - Onboard computer reading 45mpg real MPG 27mpg - Railroad.
48,000 in 9 nine years is low mileage. The car should've clocked up at least twice that amount in that time. Low mileage most likely means short trips, unless the car was only used once a week. Short trips means cool engine, and cool engine means carbon build up. That leads to restrictions in the air intake, poor performance and poor fuel economy. Couple that with the fact it's an automatic it's not at all surprising that your fuel economy is poor.
Peugeot 407 SW 2.0HDi Auto (4 speed) 2005 - 136bhp - Onboard computer reading 45mpg real MPG 27mpg - Gladius82
48,000 in 9 nine years is low mileage. The car should've clocked up at least twice that amount in that time. Low mileage most likely means short trips, unless the car was only used once a week. Short trips means cool engine, and cool engine means carbon build up. That leads to restrictions in the air intake, poor performance and poor fuel economy. Couple that with the fact it's an automatic it's not at all surprising that your fuel economy is poor.

That's a fair comment, but there is no restriction in performance. The car pulls really well and is really smooth in that respect.

I'd really like to get to the bottom of why the onboard computer thinks it's getting decent fuel economy when it's actually rubbish.

Cheers

Peugeot 407 SW 2.0HDi Auto (4 speed) 2005 - 136bhp - Onboard computer reading 45mpg real MPG 27mpg - Railroad.
The on board computer doesn't actually measure how much fuel is being used, since fuel doesn't actually pass through it. So in effect it takes an educated guess. It continuosly monitors the fuel level in the tank and makes a calculation of fuel consumption based the information received from various sensors around the engine. You may notice that the fuel remaining indicator also doesn't exactly follow the miles covered either. It's sometimes possible to recalibrate the trip computer albeit with suitable specialist equipment.