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Hi, I'm a 19 yr old young man about to go to uni. I been on autotrader to see a few cars as I just passed my test. On some of the ads, they put in the description "px to clear". I been on Google to find out what this means but I'm getting various answers. Does this px to clear actually mean the car won't last long and they just wanna get rid of it or is it just they wanting to sell it quick for various reasons not necessarily to do with the condition of the car?
Also with a budget of 2000 pounds for the car and insurance, what would be the best car to get. I been looking at the vw polo 1.0 and Vauxhall corsa 1.0. Any recommendations or advise please. Really need help on this. Thanks
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HOPEFULLY it just means the dealer wants to get rid of the car. But hey, dealers can write anything - they probably write that on rotation with all their stock. But you could possibly point it out to them while making a cheeky low offer.
Some people on this forum would put you off the Corsa 1.0. But it should be easy and cheap to fix.
I think the general recommendation would be for an early-mid 2000's Toyota Yaris or a petrol-engined Ford Fiesta.
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I think your being optimistic allowing £2000 for insurance AND car.Every young person i know have had to pay over £2000 for their first years insurance.I would recommend you enter a few price comparison web sites and enter a few different makes of car before deciding.On a side note the Peugeot 107,Toyota Aygo and the Citreon C1 seem to be the best first time cars for teenagers.
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I think you are basically in the main dealer/high end dealers here who don't want a px on their forecourt but basically advertise as px to clear hoping they'll get more for it than they will at an auction, which is probably were it will finish if they don't get any takers after a few weeks. I think the best choice is a Fiesta, there are plenty of them out there, they're fairly straightforward (well the ones you'll be able to afford are anyway) and spares are plentiful whether from pattern motor factors or even scrap yards.
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Maybe the Peugeot. I want a good looking car. The fiesta is a bit expensive to insure for me
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Maybe the Peugeot. I want a good looking car. The fiesta is a bit expensive to insure for me
With a budget of £2K for car AND insurance you should worry more about condition/reliabilty/insurance premium than looks.
"PX to clear" as explained above,often means the dealer took it in but it is not new enough to put on his forecourt (or not worth the effort of preparing it,valet, tyres, touch up bodywork etc for sale at a higher price).
An honest trader may be happy to get what was allowed as part ex plus a few quid, i.e. more than auction price.
Do get insurance quotes before you buy, and keep a bit of cash in reserve; when I had to buy and run cheap used cars it was my experience that within a few months I'd have to fork out for tyres/battery/service items. As from October 1st you need to tax a car you buy too.
Edited by galileo on 19/09/2014 at 00:11
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Why what's wrong with the corsa? Is there some kind of generic faults with it? How about the polo?
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Nothing wrong with Corsa models,but I would go for the 1.2 engine.Fiesta is also a good choice with the 1.25 engine.The Polo with the 1.2 engine is a total nightmare,steer clear.
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The Fiesta 1.25 in Finesse trim is in insurance group 7. Yes that's higher than most of the Corsa 1.0 models but it MAY only be a few more pounds on the actual premium.
If you want a good-looking car that's not the default choice, think of the 3-door (NOT 5-door) Fiat Stilo, which with a 1.2 16V engine was only in insurance group 7 too for some trims. You may pay for the style with some unreliability though. Or maybe get lucky.
A car that's better-looking than the Citroen C1 or C3 is the Citroen C2, and nearly all the 1.1 litre ones are in insurance group 3.
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But you will not get a C1/107/Aygo out of the change left after buying the insurance.
Has the OP considered a Punto?
Edited by Chris M on 19/09/2014 at 14:02
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Yea I thought about getting a punto but its not really my car if choice. Will probably go for the corsa 1.2 or fiesta 1.25 those look like my best options now
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At work there are two lads in their early twenties who have both bought Corsa 1.2's on finance. Neither of them has a kind word to say about that engine - gutless and very slow are their main gripes, and both can't wait to trade in for something with a bit more pep.
Bear in mind that one of them isn't really into cars from a petrolhead point of view, and the other is a sensible cruising type of driver but they are still both disappointed.
I don't know what the Fiesta 1.25 is like, but I would give them both a good test drive and make a decision based on that.
I have driven an old shape Corsa and Yaris as courtesy cars and I found the Yaris a far better drive, even a 1.0litre. It would last longer too, although I would have the 1.3 for a bit of extra safety in dodgy situations.
Edited by corax on 20/09/2014 at 11:51
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At work there are two lads in their early twenties who have both bought Corsa 1.2's on finance. Neither of them has a kind word to say about that engine - gutless and very slow are their main gripes, and both can't wait to trade in for something with a bit more pep.
Years ago I knew someone that had a 53 plate 1.2 - it went very well for what it was. Did they change the engine?
It was booted everywhere from cold, flat out down the motorway, speed bumps at 50mph... never broke down, to my knowledge.
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Don't get hung up on buying any particular model, nor on "image". You need to buy the best condition car you an find for the money you have which is also in a low insurance group. Ideal would be a low-mileage, meticulously-maintained car, usually ex-pensioner. That way, you minimise your chances of expensive surprises.
Then be careful not to have any accidents for a couple of years, so you build up some no claims bonus.
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"Hi, I'm a 19 yr old young man about to go to uni. I been on autotrader to see a few cars as I just passed my test. On some of the ads, they put in the description "px to clear". I been on Google to find out what this means but I'm getting various answers. Does this px to clear actually mean the car won't last long and they just wanna get rid of it or is it just they wanting to sell it quick for various reasons not necessarily to do with the condition of the car?
Also with a budget of 2000 pounds for the car and insurance, what would be the best car to get. I been looking at the vw polo 1.0 and Vauxhall corsa 1.0. Any recommendations or advise please. Really need help on this. Thanks"
If I were in your position with your grammatical abilities, I would spend the £27,000 that you are about to spend on a University course on a brand new C Class Mercedes, get a job to pay your way and take English lessons at night school.
You'll be much more employable in 3 years time. And you'll have an asset with some value as well as work experience.
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If I were in your position with your grammatical abilities, I would spend the £27,000 that you are about to spend on a University course on a brand new C Class Mercedes, get a job to pay your way and take English lessons at night school.
You'll be much more employable in 3 years time. And you'll have an asset with some value as well as work experience.
Bitter?
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Perfectly logical, don't forget there would be three years living expenses on top of the £27000 fees.
Degrees have become seriously devalued now that standards were massaged so that anyone can get a place on a course. The universities don't see individuals wishing to learn, they see £9000 a year potentially in their pocket.
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I have many graduates for lowly paid jobs at the local council. In the main the spelling and grammar were appaling. As said far too much weight put on young folks to get a degree rather than a vocational qualification or apprenticeship which can result in a quality career.
Anyway back to topic. OP first thing to ask do you really NEED a car or just want one. At Uni (unless rural) it will be more of a hinderance. All your new found friends will want a lift to and from the pub whilst you stay sober. Parking and drunken student damage may well be a problem.
No to mention the cost.
If you must have one are the £99 per month deals inclusive of insurance often available on new small cars worth considering? May work out cheaper.
Remember, not cool I know but public transport is what most students used to use.
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I used to interview graduates and school leavers.Unless the candidate had exceptional technical skills, it was a matter of policy to weed out candidates who could not spell, write or speak and write English properly.
When you have a lot of candidates for a post, that got rid of an awful lot of hopefuls who could not be bothered to write CVs in English as it should be written.
If they can't be bothered to get their CV /story right, they are not worth employing. It worked very well as a policy.
Edited by madf on 22/09/2014 at 17:55
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We still do that at the company I'm at. We recently had a job available - technically apt person required, not that bothered about a degree, as long as someone is accurate and is willing to think, preferably with some checkable history then that would do. We also made it quite clear that a driving licence would be needed, and that this part was non-negotiable, due to UK-wide jobs.
The number of CVs that went in the bin was incredible. At least 10% of applicants didn't have a driving licence. In addition, when you say on a job advert 'accurate and precise work essential', you'd expect a CV to, at the very least, be run through a spellchecker.
Sadly not.
Edited by RobJP on 22/09/2014 at 18:04
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Ok ok people can we get back to the topic at hand please. I was writing in a forum not taking an English test. And for what it's worth I've got an A in English Language A levels
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If I were in your position with your grammatical abilities, I would spend the £27,000 that you are about to spend on a University course on a brand new C Class Mercedes, get a job to pay your way and take English lessons at night school.
I think this criticism is a little harsh. Apart from the slovenly 'wanna' and 'I been', the spelling is generally pretty good. And this forum has some homilies about excessive chastisement on this issue ....
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Hi, thanks. My grammar is top notch. I was writing on a blog/forum that's why I wrote as I did. Besides I need advise on a car to buy not advise on my career.
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Hi, thanks. My grammar is top notch. I was writing on a blog/forum that's why I wrote as I did. Besides I need advise on a car to buy not advise on my career.
You say you have A level English. In the days when I did A levels, one was expected to know that 'advise' is a verb, what you want is the noun, spelt 'advice'. (Cf license and licence).
Top notch grammar? Not really.
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<< You say you have A level English. In the days when I did A levels, one was expected to know that 'advise' is a verb, what you want is the noun, spelt 'advice'. (Cf license and licence).
Top notch grammar? Not really. >>
OK, Galileo, are you trying to irritate or provoke? You've made your point, and the lad only wants advice about getting a car. He may not want to take yours?
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Don't get hung up on buying any particular model, nor on "image". You need to buy the best condition car you an find for the money you have which is also in a low insurance group. Ideal would be a low-mileage, meticulously-maintained car, usually ex-pensioner. That way, you minimise your chances of expensive surprises.
Then be careful not to have any accidents for a couple of years, so you build up some no claims bonus.
All absolutely right, Twitcherman. The OP needs to drive as many of his mates' cars who will let him, to find out what suits. Then go on a crawl with a knowledgeable accomplice who can prevent him buying carelessly.
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Many thanks, Twitcherman and Andrew T, for getting us back to the point, which is of course to help and advise Jaysm. Some people need to read my 'sticky' thread at thetop of the page (Spelling and grammar - let's not get excited).
There are some good specific suggestions above, but what's important is condition (and if you're lucky some service history). If you want some kind of a 'steer' I would suggest a Ford (because there are lots of them about) or a Toyota (because nothing soldiers on quite like an old Toyota).
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