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Ford Focus - Full disclosure when selling my car? - danski14

I'm trying to sell my automatic Focus (78k miles), having never sold a car before. I've had it for 2 1/2 years, and have only had one issue - the gearbox went and I had to get a replacement (from a 40k car) put in by a specialist. Since then I've had no issues, and otherwise the car is fine. I have been honest about this in classified ads and when people have rung up and asked whether there have been any issues with it, but clearly it has put people off. Seeing as it runs perfectly now, am I unnecessarily disclosing this info? Should I just keep schtum, say it is in good working order and leave it at that?

Cheers for the advice.

Ford Focus - Full disclosure when selling my car? - mss1tw

You've had it fixed by a specialist and it runs fine now. You're not tryin to con anyone. Don't give them more information than they need.

People don't say how many light bulbs they've changed when they sell their house!

Ford Focus - Full disclosure when selling my car? - scot22

I see your point but I'm sure about this situation.

The question is, 'Have there been any issues ?' Honest answer is that there have.

Worst case scenario there is a gearbox problem later with the car. Buyer told gearbox not original but a replacement.

Buyer aggrieved that he was not answered truthfully.

I don't know - its just a possible view.

Ford Focus - Full disclosure when selling my car? - Galaxy

I think the age of the car and, also, whether you have owned it from new have a bearing on this situation.

If the car is, for example, several years old then it's not expected to be like a new car! Provided it runs well and can be driven OK then that's really all that matters. If you haven't owned the car from new then you don't need to say anything about the gearbox at all. There's no way of telling under who's ownership it was changed.

I think you're probably worrying too much but I admire your honesty, OP. This sort of thing is one of the reasons I won't sell cars myself anymore, I always trade them in and let someone else have the pleasure.

I can think back to some of the cars I've purchased in the past, particularly at the beginning of my driving career. Whether the gearbox had been changed or not would have been, really, of no consequence or interest as some of these cars had far more serious problems.

Would a used car dealer selling your car tell a prospective purchaser that a replacement gearbox had been fitted to it, assuming you had told him when trading it in? No, I don't think so, not unless it had been a brand new one!

Ford Focus - Full disclosure when selling my car? - mss1tw

I see your point but I'm sure about this situation.

The question is, 'Have there been any issues ?' Honest answer is that there have.

Worst case scenario there is a gearbox problem later with the car. Buyer told gearbox not original but a replacement.

Buyer aggrieved that he was not answered truthfully.

I don't know - its just a possible view.

Buyer can be aggrieved as they like!

Sold as seen and tested.

If he'd got someone to bodge it back together long enough to get to the end of his road, that's a different matter.

I rewire houses for a living. I don't get asked to put the old stuff back in very often.

Ford Focus - Full disclosure when selling my car? - alan1302

How do you know it's putting people off?

When I sold my Punto I told the buyers that the power steering had been replaced recently and sold the car for more that I thought I would get.

Ford Focus - Full disclosure when selling my car? - danski14

Thanks for the various responses. I believe it has put people off as I have brought it up in response to questions, and the conversations have ended pretty quick (it being a very common car, so plenty to choose from out there).

I believe the car is in good condition now, and will no longer volunteer the information. It is a tricky situation if they ask 'what work have you had carried out', as I'll be back at square one again. I would rather not lie, but I also believe it is a good car, represents good value, the gearbox is no longer an issue and discussing it will only get in the way of a sale (at the correct market price). I have spent more on it than most would, but that shouldnt count against me. Perhaps I just have't had buyers with the right mindset yet. Those that have contacted me so far have felt like timewasters or people looking to make nonsense offers.

Ford Focus - Full disclosure when selling my car? - Andrew-T

(it being a very common car, so plenty to choose from out there).

It is a tricky situation if they ask 'what work have you had carried out', as I'll be back at square one again.

That's what makes it easy for punters to shop around, and what drives the price of used cars down. But logically, I don't see why it is any more shameful to have replaced a gearbox than a clutch, which I suspect would be less of a turn-off. Either one might suggest that the car has had one or more unsympathetic owners I suppose.

IMHO it is much better to show a full maintenance record than simply saying 'don't know' or 'not sure'.

Ford Focus - Full disclosure when selling my car? - Andrew-T

The question is, 'Have there been any issues ?' Honest answer is that there have.

Worst case scenario there is a gearbox problem later with the car. Buyer told gearbox not original but a replacement.

The car has done 78K miles - things will have been replaced, mostly normal wear & tear, some maybe not. But it has been kept in proper running condition, so no need to go OTT pulling the rug from under your sale. By all means hand over all servicing records to the buyer - he can read them at leisure and discover that the car has been looked after.

If he asks explicit questions, answer truthfully. That's all there is to it.

Ford Focus - Full disclosure when selling my car? - Avant

As a private seller you don't give any implied warranty about the condition of your car: the Sale of Goods Act is quite clear about that. So don't have a conscience either about it: caveat emptor.

Ford Focus - Full disclosure when selling my car? - Manatee

Private buyers do have some rights, if the car is unroadworthy, has not been described accurately or questions have not been answered truthfully.

www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/car-buyers-guide/cbg...l

www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/car-buyers-guide/cbg...l

Ford Focus - Full disclosure when selling my car? - Avant

Sorry - I didn't mean to imply that they didn't have any rights. Under the Sale of Goods Act they are entitled to assume that the seller has good title to the goods sold, and that they fit any description given (e.g. you couldn't say that your Focus has a new gearbox if it doesn't).

Buyers also have common law rights against misrepresentation. There was a famous case in the 1960s where a car was advertised as 'Triumph Herald 1200' when in fact it was a cut-and-shut job with the rear end of a Herald 1200 welded to the front end, including the engine, of a 948 cc Herald.

Ford Focus - Full disclosure when selling my car? - bathtub tom

There was a famous case in the 1960s where a car was advertised as 'Triumph Herald 1200' when in fact it was a cut-and-shut job with the rear end of a Herald 1200 welded to the front end, including the engine, of a 948 cc Herald.

Probably most here weren't even born then!

;>)

Ford Focus - Full disclosure when selling my car? - Andrew-T

<< Probably most here weren't even born then! ;>) >>

Tom, I suspect you may be wrong there ....