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Any - Rusty handbrake - hillman

The HJ column in the Telgraph OnLine 12 July has a section "Should the brakes squeal..." My son bought a car from one of the car supermarkets, (won't don't do that again !!), and the rear brakes were unusable. The drums were corroded so badly that powdered rust was dropping out. One of the first things our serviceman did was to replace the drums and clean things up. Then he gave advice on how to keep the drums clean. Once a week or thereabouts on a dry day, get up to 30 mph coming down a steep hill near to us, preferably in the early morning when there is no other traffic about, and then apply the handbrake vigorously five or six times to slow the car down.

I keep the rear brakes of my car clean, discs in this case, by coasting down the steep path beside my house each day controlling the speed via the handbrake.

Any - Rusty handbrake - Bolt

If its used properly and kept adjusted it shouldnt happen,it sounds like they were never checked ie drums off and kept clean and certain parts (self adjusting mechanism) lubricated

I have often come across this and its annoying as well as unsafe but during services now the rear drums are not removed,they rely on the auto adjuster to keep the rears working as they are designed,but with road salt, dirt, and acid water getting in it causes severe corrosion

You dont have to do that everyweek, now its working ok,as long as handbrake is used properly it should be ok

Any - Rusty handbrake - galileo

Then he gave advice on how to keep the drums clean. Once a week or thereabouts on a dry day, get up to 30 mph coming down a steep hill near to us, preferably in the early morning when there is no other traffic about, and then apply the handbrake vigorously five or six times to slow the car down.

'Vigorously' applying an efficient drum handbrake was favoured by rally drivers as a way of provoking a rear-wheel slide to help negotiate tight corners.

Not a practice I'd recommend to someone unprepared for the possible results (especially if the rear brakes are unbalanced)

Any - Rusty handbrake - gordonbennet

It sounds like the car in question had rear disc footbrake, with ''top hat'' design parking brake via small shoes specifically for park brake...normal drum brakes stay cleanish just by normal footbrake use.

This design can easily get very corroded, especially if fitted to a proper torque converter auto which in practice almost never needs the parking brake applying for such things as hill starts etc so the drum won't get cleaned in usage...the problem here is the usual, lack of competent regular brake servicing to keep things working well.

This system is fitted to MB, BMW, Volvo, Mitsi, Subaru and a whole host of others, it works well becuase the rear disc calipers can be standard simple twin opposed piston (MB) or single piston sliding calipers, each without the complication of a parking brake mechanism built in....the downside if you can call it that is that the friction surfaces don't really get used unless the car is a manual version..

In practice i gently apply the parking brake once every couple of months when moving on my two cars with this design, and i mean gently, just enough to clean any muck or rust off the friction surface and hardly noticing any deceleration at all, and be careful if doing so with the silly little shoes found on BMW's or you'll wear them down in minutes.

This isn't a good idea on Volvos as their rather poor quality parking brake shoes tend to seperate in far too short order (2/7/9 series they aint any more sadly) and the dislodged shoe friction material can jam the whole caboodle up solidly, and expensively, they had disintegrated on my sons S60 but we replaced them no problem before anything jammed up.

I have dismantled MB's before and found the rust to be so bad on the drums that a massive channel had been worn in the shoes and correspondingly on the drum, requiring new disc/drums and new shoes, you couldn't possibly have fitted new shoes alone (disc friction area was still good) as the contact area would have been less than 30% of the total.

I like this design personally, easily and cheaply maintained, certainly better than the idiot electric parking brake, which will wihotu doubt cause (along with other stupid designs) many otherwise good cars to be prematurely scrapped, just as designed to.

Edited by gordonbennet on 12/07/2014 at 20:53

Any - Rusty handbrake - The-Mechanic

Hmmm, 'apply the handbrake vigorously'

Is that to be used in conjunction with 'A dab of oppo'

Sounds like a Colin McRae anology along with 'if in doubt, FLAT OUT'

Seriously though, unless you know what you're doing, DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME

Edited by The-Mechanic on 12/07/2014 at 23:40

Any - Rusty handbrake - skidpan

Our 60 plate Kia Ceed SW has this type of handbrake.

In 4 years of ownership we have never had an issue and have never pulled on the handbrake whilst driving to clean the pads/drums.

Not going to start carrying out dangerous manovers or worrying about a non existent problem.

Any - Rusty handbrake - Andrew-T

My son bought a car from one of the car supermarkets, (won't do that again !!), and the rear brakes were unusable. The drums were corroded so badly that powdered rust was dropping out.

I don't see what blame attaches to the 'car supermarket'. I'm sure it could be found on a car bought anywhere else, even (or especially) privately?