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Rover 25 1.6 2003 lpg - Lpg vs petrol consumption help - patrickviera
Hello

My lpg tank is 40 litres judging by the dimensions.
The most I ever filled up the LPG tank is with 32 litres , I usually fill up when the last of the 4 green lights has been flashing for some time.Not sure how much further I can drive , does anyone know if there is a red light to say that the tank is empty?

Anyway. I noticed that the mileage I am getting is approximately 160-170 miles per 32 litres lpg tank doing city driving. Does this sound right given the car is 50 litres max petrol tank and I get 340 miles doing city driving on full petrol tank. This means per litre petrol tank I would be getting 200 miles approximately. Ignoring the cost of petrol and LPG , does this sound right and how does it compare to a deisel car in terms of fuel efficiency?

Price of petrol is approx £1.28
Lpg price is £0.6 from local lpg station which is cheaper than big stations.
Deisel approx 1.35


Thanks
Rover 25 1.6 2003 lpg - Lpg vs petrol consumption help - RobJP

Ok. The important details :

On LPG, you get 160 miles for 32 litres. Those 32 litres cost you £19.20, so it costs you 12 pence per mile.

On petrol, you get 340 miles for 50 litres. THose 50 litres cost you £64, so it costs you 18.8 pence per mile.

A small diesel-engined car of that age, you'd probably get 55-60 mpg. With a gallon costing £6.10 (1.35*4.546), that would roughly be 11 pence per mile.

So your motoring costs are pretty close to diesel if running on LPG.

Now : regarding your LPG green/red lights ... no idea. I'd suggest having a look at the lpg system, and seeing if you can get some makers details off it. Then type those into google, you might just find an owners manual online

Rover 25 1.6 2003 lpg - Lpg vs petrol consumption help - skidpan

It quite simply beggars belief that people cannot do simple maths themselves.

Is modern education so bad.

Rover 25 1.6 2003 lpg - Lpg vs petrol consumption help - RobJP

A lot of people have little confidence in their ability to do maths, more than anything else. If that is the case here, then belittling the person who asked the question serves little purpose.

I chose to answer the question in a way in which the person who asked it can see the calculations. Breaking it down to pence per mile, rather than x miles for y litres, giving Z miles per litre, and them then having to convert that to miles per gallon - and if they're trying to do that, then they learn that british gallons are different to american ones, and it gets more confusing again. Converting it to a cost in pence per mile helps in that respect.

Just because some of us find maths easy (especially those of us who are science/engineering background, I suspect) doesn't mean everyone else does too.

Rover 25 1.6 2003 lpg - Lpg vs petrol consumption help - Manatee

Just because some of us find maths easy (especially those of us who are science/engineering background, I suspect) doesn't mean everyone else does too.

Quite. I expect the OP is just differently abled to Skidpan (and me). Almost certainly a better footballer:)

Have you ever heard Jackie Stewart speak of his dyslexia?

Anything's easy when you can do it, and the only stupid questions are the ones you don't ask.

Rover 25 1.6 2003 lpg - Lpg vs petrol consumption help - skidpan

We are not talking rocket science here. We are talking about really simple maths. We are only dividing one number by another. No fancy equations. Its the sort of maths we did at junior school without a calculator. Its the sort of maths you need day to day.

In truth all the maths I did at school was done without calculators, they only started selling them about a year later.

Rover 25 1.6 2003 lpg - Lpg vs petrol consumption help - Falkirk Bairn

1972 was the start of the rot in schools -they were mains powered and 100gbp!!!

100gbp was more than Mr average earned in a month.

My brother bought a scientific calculator in1974 300+gbp. It was stolen and he claimed on house contents insurance. Today the same function is <5 gbp

Rover 25 1.6 2003 lpg - Lpg vs petrol consumption help - RobJP

We may be talking about, as Skidpan says 'really simple maths', but as I said, a lot of people have very little confidence in their ability to do maths. People really do struggle with day-to-day maths that I barely even have to think about.

I've been there, working in industrial plant, teaching operators how to do maths to help them to work out batching for non-standard sizes.

People who have that lack of confidence can get there, and build their confidence in how to do calculations. But slamming them down by saying 'God, that's simple' or 'basic stuff I could do in primary school', or 'the rot in education' .. all that says to the person asking is "you're thick, I can do this, you should be able to"

Not the most helpful attitude for people who struggle with their maths, I'm sure you'll agree.

Having some people take a superior attitude doesn't help them at all. A little bit of assisting (and hopefully teaching, by showing the basic workings out), rather than berating, might just mean that someone can do this for themselves in the future.

Rover 25 1.6 2003 lpg - Lpg vs petrol consumption help - Manatee

We are not talking rocket science here. We are talking about really simple maths.

With respect you are missing the point.

Man comes here and asks question. The way I see it is I either try to answer his question or make a helpful suggestion.

I don't express astonishment that he can't answer it himself.

There's a bloke who runs the quiz in the village pub. He has a habit of saying "This is an easy one...". All he means is that he knows the answer. It's not easy if you don't.

I'm surprised you are surprised actually. I interviewed about ten people for a job back in 1988. There was a requirement to be confident with straightforward calculations.

Every applicant was asked to calculate 15% of 120. We got through 6 candidates before one could answer correctly.

Think yourself lucky that you are so able, and have a little empathy, please:)

Rover 25 1.6 2003 lpg - Lpg vs petrol consumption help - gordonbennet

Hopefully the OP will reply to this or the other thread he started on the 22nd soon, even if he tells us to do one.

Rover 25 1.6 2003 lpg - Lpg vs petrol consumption help - patrickviera
Thanks for the calcs appreciate it, there are some silly comments from various people about me not being able to do simple maths. I already know the cost side, hence why I asked to exclude the price of fuel in my original thread if you can read.I am talking about litre capacity here, if the price of petrol doubled you are still doing the same miles per tank but paying more. On 32 litre lpg tank I am getting 170 miles approx, on 50 litre petrol tank for same car I am getting 340 , take 32/50 *340 gives approx 218 miles. I am asking why 170 is less than 218 in terms of fuel efficiency for the same 32 litres only and is this normal for lpg v petrol comparison?

Rover 25 1.6 2003 lpg - Lpg vs petrol consumption help - Manatee

GB will know best when he looks in again but i think the short answer is yes.

A litre of LPG provides less energy than a litre of petrol.

Rover 25 1.6 2003 lpg - Lpg vs petrol consumption help - gordonbennet

GB is still waiting for the OP to reply to the other thread he started.

In reply to you MT, my experience so far is that the MB returns just slightly less mpg on gas, that conversion has been a complete success, despite being regarded by those in the know as a cheap Polish made system doomed to failure 3 days out of warranty, it has in fact been completely reliable, i wouldn't hesitate to convert another Benz.

The Outback on petrol did around 23mpg on local running plus my awkward commute, and is returning 20/21mpg on gas (Benz similar depending on my right boot), only been on gas a couple of months and only 1 tank used following recalibration so still checking figures.

For some reason i can't lay hands on my old log tables just now, so estimate only that the proportional less mpg on gas versus petrol is roughly the same as the OP is experiencing, but only being a lowly B pass O level in Maths i await confirmation with proof calcs..:-)