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BMW 1 Series Convertible - Bmw theft - dredd123
My bmw was stolen we returned the keys to aviva who lost them then found them and after 9 months are saying the keys show the vehicle was driven 12 and 15 days after the reported theft.we know this is false but don't know where to go next.
BMW 1 Series Convertible - Bmw theft - dacouch

Aviva have their own department that specialises in foresically being able to check Keys and the car's engine management to confirm this type of thing.

It's possible they're checking the wrong car keys considering the amount of time they went AWOL.

I would recommend speaking to your BMW dealer or BMW for their advice on the technical side of the data on the keys.

Why has the claim dragged on so long?

How was the vehicle stolen?

How many sets of keys did you have?

BMW 1 Series Convertible - Bmw theft - Avant

Aviva will try anything to avoid paying out. When my car was stolen 4 years ago, because the thieves burgled the house and took SWMBO's keys, they wouldn't believe that the car had actually been stolen and virtually accused me of fraud, despite the police backing me all the way.

They only relented when the car was found by the police 100 miles away.

Edited by Avant on 28/04/2014 at 22:00

BMW 1 Series Convertible - Bmw theft - dacouch

With a theft claim it tends to be more a case of them wanting to ensure they pay valid claims.

I had a client who was a friend of a friend whose car was stolen and ended up in the Thames, Aviva were not happy about the claim and interviewed the guy a couple of times and eventually checked the data on the key. (The car had apparantly been stolen without the key)

They rang me and explained they did not believe the clients story but felt the event was probably covered but need the customer to tell the truth and that this was his last chance to tell the truth before they declined the claim and would then decline any further cover for him.

I had a chat with the guy and eventually he said I'll tell you as long as the Insurers don't tell my wife, I explained they would not they just want the truth. It turned out he had been out with his mistress who had been "distracting" him while he drove. He lost control, drove throw a fence and landed in the Thames. They both panicked and ran away. The police discovered a £50k Audi in the river with no signs of survivors so went around to his house and broke the door down when they got no answer.

The guy then was worried about his wife finding out about the mistress so made an alibi and pretended the car had been stolen.

I gave this to Aviva and they happily paid the claim out under the accidental damage section which it was covered by. It gave them an excellent example case for training staff

BMW 1 Series Convertible - Bmw theft - hookster66

i would ask aviva for a copy of the full report, showing the apparant use of the keys. It would also make sense to approach an insurance claims specialist/ loss assessor for advice, they will certainly have access to key and software engineers who can put you in position to challenge aviva from a position of knowledge.

BMW 1 Series Convertible - Bmw theft - TedCrilly

Amongst the data the keys hold will be the VIN of the vehicle they are matched to along with the ECU serial number so it shouldnt be difficult to confirm if the keys are genuinely for your vehicle or another one. I would have thought it very unlikely the investigators have not checked this important detail before speaking to you but its not impossible for an oversight to happen. I suppose you could always ask for independent confirmation of the data if you wish.

As an aside.....and call me a cynic if you wish but when people post questions in here regarding keys and insurance company theft disputes you have to ask why.

People seem to assume its always the insurance company being awkward but is there not a possibilty that the individuals concerned might have been up to no good and are looking for ways and means to defend themselves?

Hmmmmmm!!!!

BMW 1 Series Convertible - Bmw theft - slkfanboy

You can google plus I had a friend who's BMW was stolen in this very way, It's seams there is a way that an electronic device can be hooked up and used produce a replacement key. So thats how they did it.

In the past I have had BMW's and some dealer taken my key to get service info including milage etc. So i guess this is updated with date time every time you use the key.

I would asked for the keys to be sent to an indipendant technical expert. talk to a legal advise for recommendations.

Bottom line there are only few options, either the key was used after theft, wrong date/time was set in the car or it's not your key. The key has your VIN number which should match the V5.