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Tue 22 Apr 2014 13:32
Hyundai i30 Diesel Auto - MOT & Service querry - alanjw

I have a Huundai i30 Diesel, 2010 model, it has been regulary serviced by the Hyundia dealer, in October 2013 and next service due in 12 months time.

I had my car in for it's annual MOT on 19th April 2014, and it passed it's test with a note that the rear brake pads were wearring thin. (3.5.1g) both sides

I spoke to the person at the garage where the test was done and he said that the rear brakes were legal, and said they ougth to be checked again in two months time.

Today 22/4/14 my son who is driving the car ,is about 120 miles away from home and

her heard a scraping noise from the rear of the car, he has taken it to a garage and they have said that the rear brakes are down to the metal and they are being replaced.

I have contacted the MOT garage, they say they have to do a visual check on the rear brakes and have to estimate the wear, and they cannot see both sides of the brake pads.

Can I apply for compensation either where the car has been service or MOT Garage for this incident?

If so what compensation should I ask for ?

Edited by alanjw on 22/04/2014 at 13:37

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Tue 22 Apr 2014 13:45
Hyundai i30 Diesel Auto - MOT & Service querry - skidpan

The MOT is not concerned with the pad material left so long as the brkes work and meet the MOT requirements. If the pad material is low you may get an advisory from some garages, from others nothing.

At the time of the service most garages will tell you if they consider that the brakes will not make it to the next service, did yours have such a statement.

Either way you have no legal comeback or right to compensation, the service was 7 months ago and as I said provided the brakes pass the roller test on the MOT its a pass.

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Tue 22 Apr 2014 13:50
Hyundai i30 Diesel Auto - MOT & Service querry - Brit_in_Germany

Did you have the brakes checked again as per the recommendation of the dealer? If not, why should you be entitled to any compensation? Your brakes came to the end of their working life and needed changing.

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Tue 22 Apr 2014 14:00
Hyundai i30 Diesel Auto - MOT & Service querry - alanjw

At the time of the service most garages will tell you if they consider that the brakes will not make it to the next service, did yours have such a statement.

The service garage where I had it seviced in Oct 13, they were 75% worn, working this out, I would estmate that the rear brake should last 12 months.

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Tue 22 Apr 2014 13:55
Hyundai i30 Diesel Auto - MOT & Service querry - alan1302

Can I apply for compensation either where the car has been service or MOT Garage for this incident?

If so what compensation should I ask for ?

Compensation for what? No one has done anything wrong.

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Tue 22 Apr 2014 13:59
Hyundai i30 Diesel Auto - MOT & Service querry - pd

It is difficult to see much during an MOT as nothing can be removed. Without removing the wheels on many cars if you can see anything you can only see the outer pad.

Where the MOT tester cannot see something they are meant to give you the benefit of the doubt.

They did and as it turns out the inner pad was clearly worn.

Something on a car has worn out, what in heavens name makes you think you are entitled to compensation?

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Tue 22 Apr 2014 14:08
Hyundai i30 Diesel Auto - MOT & Service querry - alanjw

It is difficult to see much during an MOT as nothing can be removed. Without removing the wheels on many cars if you can see anything you can only see the outer pad. Where the MOT tester cannot see something they are meant to give you the benefit of the doubt. They did and as it turns out the inner pad was clearly worn. Something on a car has worn out, what in heavens name makes you think you are entitled to compensation?

What happens if the discs have been scored or need replacing ?

Why should my son have to spend time on his holiday having the brake pads repaired?

What would happen if the brakes did not work properly due to metal scrapping on mental a serious accident, who would be responsible ?

Can you see the possible implications of this, if brake failure on the car wheels the car will not stop properly !

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Tue 22 Apr 2014 14:14
Hyundai i30 Diesel Auto - MOT & Service querry - skidpan

What happens if the discs have been scored or need replacing ?

Scored dics are not an MOT fail. As I said above if they pass the test on the brake rollers and there are no safety defects e.g. leaks, cracked hoses, rusty pipes then it will pass.

Why should my son have to spend time on his holiday having the brake pads repaired?

Part of life, things break at unfortunate times.

Can you see the possible implications of this, if brake failure on the car wheels the car will not stop properly !

Its probably just one pad out of the 8 on the car that is making a noise. The other 7 will be working fine and the car would have no issues stopping. Its not brake failure your son has experienced.

Have you ever read an MOT certificate. it clearly tells you it is only really valid at the time the inspection takes place and should not be relied on as an indication of vehicle condition. Once its out of the MOT station how can they control what some other person may do e.g. take out the brake pads and fit worn out ones.

Edited by skidpan on 22/04/2014 at 14:16

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Tue 22 Apr 2014 14:45
Hyundai i30 Diesel Auto - MOT & Service querry - gordonbennet

Make sure you see the pads that are removed, i expect that the only bit of pad touching the disc is at the very outside of the pad and its only touching the wear ridge at the outer edge, it might even only be the wear indicator touching the dis, if fitted.

From your post i'd be surprised if the disc is genuinly bad enough to need renewing, whether that stops them being put on is another question entirely...again iw oudl have your son bring the old parts back.

Kompensayshun is not likely here..:-)))))

As said, its almost impossible to tell how badly worn pads are during an MOT, which also makes a mockery of most modern service techniques at some main dealers, where a technician peers through the and from behind the wheel can see a tiny fraction of the edge of the pads, sprays brake cleaner all over the shop, and then pronounces all well, its rubbish.

Cars need annual proper servicing of the brakes, which means removing the wheels, then the pads and checking them properly, then clean lube and re-assemble.

By the way, if i found my brakes 75% worn, they'd have been binned and replaced there and then, a week at best whilst i gathered the parts in.

Edited by gordonbennet on 22/04/2014 at 14:48

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Tue 22 Apr 2014 14:50
Hyundai i30 Diesel Auto - MOT & Service querry - daveyjp

I would be amazed if a dealer who was supposed to have done a service in October didn't advise of low brake pads.

My car was main dealer serviced at the end of October 2013 and I was advised that the pads were getting low, nothing required, but be ready for them needing changing. At three years old and about 33,000 miles this didn't come as a surprise.

In February 2014 the low pad warning came on so my wallet was emptied again!

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Tue 22 Apr 2014 16:34
Hyundai i30 Diesel Auto - MOT & Service querry - alanjw

Many thanks for all your replies and help.

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Tue 22 Apr 2014 16:42
Hyundai i30 Diesel Auto - MOT & Service querry - oldroverboy.

I'm with all the others... when anyone gets advice like this, kwik-fit will do a " free" brake check, dismantling calipers and wiil advise if new bits needed, no obligation, but if yo do, "warranty for as long as you own the car! just had the cruze done a while back and fronts £65 ish and rears the same, 2 separate visits..

Other Garages are available who will do a proper wheel off/caliper off pads out check.

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Wed 23 Apr 2014 20:34
Hyundai i30 Diesel Auto - MOT & Service querry - Simon

So you had your car MOT'd, got an advisory that the rear brake pads were low and then sent your son off on his holidays in it without having the brakes repaired???

I doubt that it will now be at the point where it has harmed the discs, but look at it this way - you've had 100% of your moneys worth out of those old rear pads!!!

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