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Punto - Clutch Replacement - Tools Reqd.? - Chris M

We have acquired a 2004 Punto 8v for my youngest son. Overall in pretty good nick and just in need of a little TLC here and there. The most pressing area requiring attention is the clutch release bearing which is whining badly.

It's been 25 years since I've had to do a clutch and back then I had access to a pit, hoist and all the tools I could possibly need. Now, it's going to be driveway job. Two new tools will be required. Firstly, a clutch alignment tool. In the past I used one of these:

www.amazon.co.uk/Draper-39223-Universal-Clutch-Ali...l

But saw this and wondered whether it's any good. Anyone used one?

www.amazon.co.uk/Draper-52329-Clutch-Mate-Alignmen...l

The other tool will be one of these:

www.amazon.co.uk/Timbertech%C2%AE-MTBRK01-Engine-S...m

Draper, Laser & Sealey do more expensive versions, but like the alignment tool, will probably only be used the once. Has anyone used one? In use, I imagine it somewhat limits access from above. The other alternative would be to hire a hoist locally for around £10 per day plus a bit of faffing collecting and taking it back. Any advice from those in the know?

Punto - Clutch Replacement - Tools Reqd.? - bathtub tom

For clutch alignment I wrap some adhesive tape round a quarter inch square drive extension and a length of four by two over the front wings for an engine support - you're dealing with a ten-year-old car.

Punto - Clutch Replacement - Tools Reqd.? - Chris M

Doesn't matter how old the car is when aligning the clutch - if it ain't aligned, it's not going to go back together. But I take your point regarding the length of wood. Thanks.

Punto - Clutch Replacement - Tools Reqd.? - colric

Hi Chris,

I am no expert but a motoring fan who enjoys watching the expertise of those who are masters of the craft.

Reading your post, I remembered a Wheeler Dealers programme i have seen and the 'Master' used an old 1st motion shaft to line up the clutch.

From 27;34

www.streetfire.net/video/wheeler-dealerssierra-cos...m

I am sure you will know about such things but I am sure one would be very cheap from a scrappy.

Good luck.

Colric

Punto - Clutch Replacement - Tools Reqd.? - The-Mechanic

If it's going to be a driveway job I'd not bother with the support beam. Just jack the car up high enough for clearance and axle stand it. Disconnect the usual driveshaft, pipes / wires etc and leave just one, easily accessible bolt in the bellhousing and one in the gearbox mounting.

Use a trolley jack under the 'box and support it to remove the mount then pivot the lot down and use a third stand under the engine to stop it falling out. Remove the bolt holding the 'box to the engine and drag it out on the jack.

Refitting is, as the Haynes manual says, a simple reversal of removal !!

As for the alignment tool, I've used the clutchmate one to good effect many, many times as I've found the older type with the interchanable dowels don't always hold the plate correctly as they don't fit 100% and usually need packing up with tape which is a bit of a PITA !!!

Punto - Clutch Replacement - Tools Reqd.? - Chris M

Thanks for the clutchmate recommendation. I've used dowels wrapped in tape and the like before and it can work when you have a clear view of the clutch to judge if it's all lined up. Easier on an in line engine, but laying on the ground trying to get your head up the gap between engine and bodywork may not be so easy - especially for my 50+ advanced years!

I had considered an axle stand under the engine, but had pretty much discounted it. My reasoning was the engine will move around more with the potential to cause damage to the parts I was hoping not to touch e.g. exhaust, coolant pipes (straining 10 yo radiator connections) and wiring.

Punto - Clutch Replacement - Tools Reqd.? - 659FBE

If the Punto is similar to the earlier 127, there's a simple short cut.

These cars do not have a spigot bearing in the flywheel and the clutch pressure plate bolts are accessible via rotation through the timing hole at the top of the bell housing.

Progressively slacken the clutch cover bolts in-situ, then remove them. Leaving the driveshafts in place and possibly disconnecting the exhaust, support the power unit on jacks at each end and remove the bellhousing bolts. Ensure the pressure plate is free of the locating dowels.

Now do the normally unforgivable - let the gearbox drop at an angle, letting a wide gap develop at the top of the bellhousing. Because there is no spigot, and because the pressure plate is free, it's safe to do this. The clutch can then be pulled out through the top.

Renewing the thrust bearing is a fiddle, as there's little space, but it can be done.

Re-assembly is the reverse of, progressively tightening the clutch cover bolts through the hole as you rotate the crankshaft.

This trick enabled me to make an otherwise uneconomic repair to a rusty 127 with perfect results - done in my driveway. If I were in the same situation and the clutch cover bolts were not accessible, I'd cut a hole in the bell housing.

This scheme can only work when there is no spigot bearing. Of course, no alignment tool is needed - the driven plate is just threaded onto the input shaft and hangs there whilst you assemble the clutch.

659.

Edited by 659FBE on 02/04/2014 at 16:34

Punto - Clutch Replacement - Tools Reqd.? - Chris M

I've had a quick look at Haynes and I can't tell if there's a spigot bearing or not. If only Haynes manuals still had the engineering drawing like they used to! Thanks for the idea, but I won't take the chance

And wouldn't it be good if more cars were like the Mk1 Astras and Cavaliers or before that, the FWD Triumph 1300.

Punto - Clutch Replacement - Tools Reqd.? - 659FBE

Add (proper) SAAB 99/900 to your list.

The dodge I used on the 127 saved so much time, it might be worth a little research. Google images may help, as will asking a few people who have done the job. Unlike VAG which has almost impeccable documentation, the FIAT spares documentation is unlikely to be of any use whatsoever - I gave up with the organisational chaos which passes for this producer of motor vehicles. The actual product is not bad.

Best of luck however you do it - transmissions cost a lot to tool up for and don't change much over the years, so you could be in with a chance if you do some homework.

659.

Punto - Clutch Replacement - Tools Reqd.? - bathtub tom

Brings back memories of doing one on a Fiat 850. There was a large, thin metal plate on the bellhousing. Hang the pressure plate and clutch plate onto the gearbox input shaft, re-fit the gearbox then reach in the hole and bolt everything up.