I reserve the right to call a long handled digging implement a long handled digging implement. I mean Golly gosh It's merely being descriptive. Frankly I am completely Foxtrot Oscared with PC political correctness in all it's loathsome forms.

I think I should go now to watch a panto...something along the lines of 'Snow Purple and the seven vertically challenged but great people nontheless'. Traditional stuff.

..dude I'd like my country back please.

The question seems to be about danger on the roads due to foreigners not understanding roundabouts, and presumably others possibly customary systems of making our way about.

Unfortunately the roads have got worse, and it happens to have coincided with uncontrolled immigration, so whether its johnny foreigner causing the problem or the fact that millions more people are crammed into a space not big enough to manage them, the problem is ours and it isn't going away.

The problem is we have a quart of people now crammed into our pint pot island, and the numbers are still rising and will continue to do so.

If looking for someone to blame for the situation try the mirror, most people voted for exactly what they've now got ,a country swamped with people, a country overpopulated but without the planning and infrastructure to manage those numbers...welcome to your world.

Its no good saying 'not me' i didn't vote for this, if you voted for one of the main three parties (yes the three cheeks of the same backside party) over the last 20 years, you share part of the blame.

You'll do so again next year, and expect a different result.

And if you didn't vote then you still share the blame !

Not necessarily, those who ruined the country didn't have the abstainers approval.

Take your point though, i've always voted but for any except the creepy sales-staff/professional politicians, as have been fronting the three cheeks for their masters for years now.

Edited by gordonbennet on 06/02/2014 at 19:26

This has ceased to be a discussion about motoring, so it;s going over to Non-motoring. I'll let it run for now unless it gets ugly, as it threatened to before being rescued.

You and I live within 25 miles of each other but I don't recognise the place described.

You misunderstand me Bromp.

The drastic reduction in driving competence coincides with the country being swamped with people (and the disappearance of real coppers), native Brits are just as bad as any of the foreigners though the driving faults could well be different.

I can tell a foreign driver in one of those lorries out of Swan Valley by the way without seeing the driver, not necessarily worse just different.**

The dog eat dog me first rush to get somewhere is just another symptom of a country rammed full of people without the infrastructure to facilitate their movement, the lack of basic manners encountered in everyday life is a parallel to this, you can't keep stuffing more and more people into a given space without consequences, enjoy it as its going to get a whole lot worse.

Our own county, Nothamptonshire, has seen massive traffic changes over the last 20 years, again woefully poor planning by those paid fantastic salaries to do exactly that, plan.

M6/M1/A14 junction for example, whoever thought that was going to cope was a seriously and dangerously deluded individual/team, for each and every soul thats perished at that junction the designer(s) should be doing porridge.

We have the current A14 widening fiasco at Kettering, years too late, again, and just to bring Kettering to a complete standstill they also shut the A509 railway bridge for 3 months for repairs at the same time...you'd have to be a brilliant lunatic to come up with that strategy, but its typical of the mess and laughing stock that this country is fast becoming....almost Carry On film standards of incompetence abound.

**incidentally some of the best lorry drivers i have worked with have been Romanian, like some of us old school lorry types many of them been through the mill and learned properly, they also happen to be among the most polite decent people i know.

Edited by gordonbennet on 06/02/2014 at 21:13