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Carelessness equals carlessness - hillman

I saw two incidents in one week.

The first one was on the Whaley Bridge to Macclesfield road, the B5470, and the second one was in a Morrisons supermarket car-park near Stockport.

The first one was on Monday morning after the first cold night of the season. When I went through the Police road-block about 07:15 am here was definitely ice on the road in parts because when I braked to slow down on a hill the ABS came into operation momentarily. Whether the accident was caused by ice or carelessness I don’t know, but the car had rolled, perhaps several times, and was on its side. The car was most definitely a write off.

Motorists tend to emulate rally drivers on the B5470 during the rush hour and generally come to no harm. But, when the conditions change and they are taken unawares !!

The second was on Friday morning about 11:00 and involved a lady and a gentleman simultaneously reversing their cars into the same space. Neither was looking backwards so I would put that one down to ABC (absolute bl***y carelessness). They were both moving slowly and I couldn’t see any obvious damage although there was a loud bang.

Carelessness equals carlessness - csgmart

I have a 110 mile communte to work and back every day. It's mostly motorway and A roads and I've been doing this journey for over 7 years now. In all that time the motorway has been badly affected less than 10 times in total.

Now, in the past month the motorway has either been closed or partially closed (with the resultant tailbacks) on at least 5 separate occasions. The change in the clocks might be responsible or possibly the angle of the sun early in the morning (it can 'blind' you on several points of the journey).

Whatever the reason it seems too many people are incapable of driving their vehicles without banging into someone or something.

Thinking about it I suspect the other reason why drivers are crashing into things is they are concentrating on reading their mobile phones (or worse typing a message on the phone whilst driving). I see so many people who are on their phones every day it would be a joke if it was funny - but it isn't.

Carelessness equals carlessness - A3 A4

One does wonder if the amount of 'imported' drivers has anything to do with it....

Carelessness equals carlessness - gordonbennet

Hmm i have a small theory about the recent spate of accidents, probably wrong as usual.

I can't be the only one who finds the rapidly increasing light displays on cars counter productive, yes they can be seen but all you can see now when you either follow or meet several other cars is a mass of blinding lights, especially those damded awful camp DRL's that look frankly ridiculous and should have left on the Christmas tree with the fairy.

Factor in that LED rear lights, especially the fad for umpteen million lumens of brake lights, whilst visible, are flickering so fast and so brightly that its virually impossible to tell the rate of deceleration of mobile Blackpool illuminations before your very eyes.

Luckily for my work i sit that much higher in the lorry and keep a good braking distance in front (not as the dive bombers leave me that luxury for long) but i increasingly detest the drive to and from work in my car due to the severe blinding.

Another thing of course is the slipperiness of the roads as they get wetter and will be much slipperier once the salt goes down, where many of us learned car control on cars that had little grip and no electronic stability controls of any description, there are increasing numbers of newer drivers who have never driven without ABS and now without some from of electronic vehicle stability as well, they are lulled into a false sense of how well their cars grip (or their pride in their driving prowess)...eventually conditions prevail over 'puter and raw physics takes over but at a much higher speed or G's than those of us maybe older and wiser would have reached at a given set of circumstances.

Carelessness equals carlessness - galileo

Excellent summary, GB, I agree with your last paragraph. I made the same points in reply to a letter in the local paper suggesting all over 65s should have to take an annual driving test. His fatal error was to say he was a driving instructor, so obviously after more business!

Carelessness equals carlessness - jamie745

Some of the lights are silly. I was sat behind an Audi last night with tail lights made out of 26 scorching bright LEDs. Why?

Carelessness equals carlessness - gordonbennet

Some of the lights are silly. I was sat behind an Audi last night with tail lights made out of 26 scorching bright LEDs. Why?

So as to make the 2 candle power pencil thin indicator disappear into the red LED hell, times i've missed VW groups (and others) silly style over substance indicator lights especially in sunlight.

Carelessness equals carlessness - A3 A4

So as to make the 2 candle power pencil thin indicator disappear into the red LED hell, times i've missed VW groups (and others) silly style over substance indicator lights especially in sunlight.

Totally agree the Mk5 Golf (and similar vintage Passat) had a small round indicator surrounded by a circular brake light, the indicator almost impossible to see when the brakes were applied.

The endless ambiguous signage, road markings and bus lanes as well as the constant look out for varying speed limits, cameras, camera vans and the constant checking of ones speedo - all unecessary distractions distracting drivers from driving....

Carelessness equals carlessness - dan86

Iv mentioned about vw rear indicators befor on hear and was told it was my eye sight and the mighty wv group dont do anything wrong.

Carelessness equals carlessness - madf

The endless ambiguous signage, road markings and bus lanes as well as the constant look out for varying speed limits, cameras, camera vans and the constant checking of ones speedo - all unecessary distractions distracting drivers from driving....

My wife counted 32 signs - on one side of teh road in a half mile strecth of local road...

Anyone who reads them all will crash through not following what the car in front is doing.

I assume Councils have Traffic Departments with loadsofmoney to spend!:-)

Carelessness equals carlessness - Andrew-T

Some of the lights are silly. I was sat behind an Audi last night with tail lights made out of 26 scorching bright LEDs. Why?

This is one of the current areas of competition for car stylists. They have exhausted the possibilties with body shapes, front ends, rear ends, rooflines, waistlines etc. It is also considered (or at least claimed) that it is more important to see and be seen, than to worry about whether that stops everyone else seeing. The result is leapfrogging to the point we are discussing here.

None of the manufacturers seem to consider it worth making warning lights less bright after dark - i.e.when headlights are switched on. It has been tried before, but I guess the small cost was sacrificed and then forgotten about.

But of course those d**d Volvos (and others) have their headlights on all the time ....

Carelessness equals carlessness - Bromptonaut

Some of the lights are silly. I was sat behind an Audi last night with tail lights made out of 26 scorching bright LEDs. Why?

This is one of the current areas of competition for car stylists. They have exhausted the possibilties with body shapes, front ends, rear ends, rooflines, waistlines etc. It is also considered (or at least claimed) that it is more important to see and be seen, than to worry about whether that stops everyone else seeing. The result is leapfrogging to the point we are discussing here.

Audi A8 on 63 plate turning into Broadway from Tothill st an hour or so ago - indicators like a row of Chrimbo lights under the similar shaped DRL.

Weird.

Carelessness equals carlessness - Chris M

Agree with you GB. My concern is that I could easily miss (or not!) a cyclist when pulling out at a junction because whilst they may have lighting, even the best and brightest can't match the trillion candlepower on the front of the current Audis and Range Rovers.

Carelessness equals carlessness - davecooper
Until last night I would have agreed, however, I was totally blinded by a bike light in a country lane, probably worse than someone not dipping their headlights. Bike lights have obviously stepped into the battle as well.
Carelessness equals carlessness - Andrew-T
Until last night I would have agreed, however, I was totally blinded by a bike light in a country lane, probably worse than someone not dipping their headlights. Bike lights have obviously stepped into the battle as well.

I've seen one like that - and flashing to make it a bit worse. Most distracting.

Carelessness equals carlessness - RichT54

and don't forget the inconsiderate folk driving with fog lights on when there is no fog.

Carelessness equals carlessness - alan1302

and don't forget the inconsiderate folk driving with fog lights on when there is no fog.

Or no lights on when it is foggy