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318d sept 2013 - car allowance own vehicle + fuel paid TAX Help!!! - 3kcarrequired
Hi,

Hopefully some one can offer some advice..

I am going to get 21k + 400p/month car allowance + all fuel paid company fuel card.

What are the implications tax-wise i am presuming from research that;

1. The car allowance as it is rolled into my salary will be deducted @ 20%. I.e£320.00 in hand.

2. The fuel card will be seen as benefit in kind, how then will this affect monthly cash in hand amount, given that i estimate 25k business miles & 5k personal.

3. As i am effectively purchasing a car in my name i can get 45p x 10000 miles & 25p thereafter End Of Year tax rebate. Is this figure right £8250 annually.

Also;

As i am currently driving a car valued under 2k this may be a good opportunity to get on the pcp ladder so to speak.. Here comes the head in the clouds bit.. Feel free to tell me:)
A 2013 new 318d bmw sport will cost 2k up front 400 month, inc servicing 50k miles etc..
While i will have to cover some of the amount myself after three years (warranty expires) i can trade in at a hirer value than say a 90kmiles Hyundai i40 tourer?? What am i missing?

All help through allowance/bik/tax vs car finance minefield gratefully received!!
318d sept 2013 - car allowance own vehicle + fuel paid TAX Help!!! - leaseman

Just a few observations to kick off. I can give you exact calculations when I have a bit more time and information.

This method of car allowance is just about the least efficient, tax-wise, that I have ever seen. Your employer needs to take advice from a competent advisor. Fast.

The tax you will pay on receiving the benefit of private fuel will exceed the value of the private fuel used to cover 5,000 miles per annum, especially in a fuel efficient car.

The car allowance of £400 per month will also be subject to National Insurance, as well as 20% tax.

The 45 pence and 25 pence tax free allowance figures are for business miles, but include the cost of fuel. You are being offered free fuel, so the allowance would be adjusted downwards. Additionally, the £8,250 that you mention is the deemed cost to you and your tax rebate would be 20% of this figure, i.e. £1,650, even if you disregard the comment above.

The true cost of running a car for 90,000 miles over 36 months will be extremely high, even in a Hyundai i40.

Have you checked out how much you will pay for Insurance, including business use? This will be a significant part of the calculation, depending on your personal situation, and could change if you rack up points or convictions as time goes by.

Trust that this helps for now, and sorry for not being as specific as you require for this exercise.

318d sept 2013 - car allowance own vehicle + fuel paid TAX Help!!! - 3kcarrequired
Thanks for the response.

Forgot to mention that i will be paying 28p for private millage per quarter. This is written into my employment contract does this then mean i wont be taxed on fuel at all, as the buisness is buisness... Personal is paid for, and i will be able to recieve a rebate for using own vehicle?

Insurance including business use is in and around 450 - 500.

Bmw are giving me a value of around 9k at 90000 ? Sound good enough for a new 2013 318d?

Thanks again

318d sept 2013 - car allowance own vehicle + fuel paid TAX Help!!! - leaseman

I have to assume that the employer has come to an agreement with HMRC regarding private fuel use, but 28 pence per quarter doesn't sound a lot! Is that per mile? That sounds too much! Nevertheless, let's assume that you will not be charged BIK tax on fuel (Which would cost you over £800 a year on the BMW 318d SE 4 door manual.

Irrespective of the method by which you finance the car, you must consider what the "Whole of Life Cost (WLC)" of running the vehicle will be over, say, a 36 month lifespan, and divide by 36 to arrive at a true monthly cost to you.

The car has a list price of over £27,000, but let's be bold and consider a discounted price of £25,000. The BMW salesman says it will be worth £9,000 in 3 years with 90,000 miles on the clock. That may be a feasible part exchange value, but it looks a bit rich as a true value, when you look at the current market in such cars. However, if it is worth £9000, then you will have suffered depreciation of £16,000, or £444 per month. Add financing costs of 36 months interest ( probably a minimum of £2,400) and you're now paying over £500 per month. Any offer of a magic formula PCP or HP deal that appears to be less than this value has to be fraught with danger or, more likely, a totally unrealistic future value that will leave you in deep negative equity.

You then have to service, maintain and replace tyres on the car, and the true cost of that will be in the region of £100 per month. (figures calculated by reference to major Contract Hire companies who command serious discounts on tyres and servicing costs- if you can do better, then get a job as a maintenance controller). Add your stated cost of insurance and the WLC is now well over £600 per month. (The true value of the "free servicing" offer over 50,000 miles has been deucted from my calculations)

Your £400 monthly fixed allowance is worth £272 per month after tax and Class 1 NIC. As commented above, the 45p and 25p notional tax saving will be worth a maximum to you of £137 per month (But this will be diluted as you do not pay for business fuel).

Result: The Beemer will cost you at least £200 per month in excess of your motoring income. I leave it with you.

Edited by leaseman on 05/10/2013 at 12:46

318d sept 2013 - car allowance own vehicle + fuel paid TAX Help!!! - 3kcarrequired
Thank you for you very thorough response . I really appreciate your assistance.

You made reference to the inefficient nature of this contract. Could you suggest a more efficient method of supplying a vehicle?

Many thanks
318d sept 2013 - car allowance own vehicle + fuel paid TAX Help!!! - leaseman

Again, I don't want to comment further on the fuel aspect of the contract as I can only assume that HMRC have agreed a formula with the employer.

The £400 per month car allowance will be classed as a "Round Sum Allowance" and, as such, you pay taxand Class 1 NICs on it. Additionally, the employer will pay Class 1A NICs at the Employer rate of 13.8%. Hence the allowance costs the employer £5,462 per annum to give you a net. £3,264 per annum as in previous post.

If the employer paid you a business mileage allowance of 22 pence per mile to cover 25,000 miles, it would cost them £5,500 per annum. But such a payment would be free of tax and NICs both for you and for them. Result: Your net income rises by £1,236 without costing the employer anything (well what's £38 ?).

Your ability to claim a rebate on the notional 45p/25p basis is reduced to 20% of a maximum £2,750, or £550, subject to the proviso in my previous post.. Add that to the £5,500 mileage allowance, and your motoring income becomes £6,050 per annum. That, to me, sounds more tax efficient and I hope you agree.