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Hyundai i20 - Air con leaking -can I postpone the repair ? - SteveWiliam

I noticed a hissing sound when the air-con was switched on this morning upon checked the car I found a pool of air-con fluid underneath the condenser.

I don't have the money to repair it at present and wondered if Ieaving the repair will cause any deterioration in the system. To be honest, I don't really use the air-con, so wont miss it. But if I do choose to sell the car, I would prefer to have everything functioning for the new owner.

Hyundai i20 - Air con leaking -can I postpone the repair ? - skidpan

The Hyundai i20 came onto the UK market in 2009. That means they are all less than 5 years old. All Hyundais come with a 5 year unlimited mileage warranty (which includes air con repairs) thus if your car has been correctly serviced it will be repaired free.

Hyundai i20 - Air con leaking -can I postpone the repair ? - Galaxy

Aircon fluid? But it's a gas which will just evaporate, unless it's had a marker or similar put into it at some time to try to detect leaks.

Are you quite sure this is a leak and not just condensation dripping off the condenser in the hot weather. If it's the latter then it's perfectly normal and nothing at all to worry about. The hissing, however, sounds like it would warrant further investigation.

edit.................The aircon on my mondeo failed and I didn't repair it for about 4 years. Worked perfectly once a new condenser was fitted and I had it regassed.

Edited by Galaxy on 28/08/2013 at 18:42

Hyundai i20 - Air con leaking -can I postpone the repair ? - RT

Take it to a Hyundai dealer for repair under warranty - however if there's a leak in the condenser, in front of the engine radiator, they'll no doubr blame it on stone damage which isn't covered.

Hyundai i20 - Air con leaking -can I postpone the repair ? - SteveWiliam

The leak is oily and coming from the side of the condenser and dripping on the floor. It appears to be the lubricant oil in the air-con gas.

Even though the car is under warranty, Hyundai still charge £60 to re-gas with a marker.

IF the fault is found to be a failed componant, then the £60 is refunded. However, if the fault is a damaged condenser due to a stone, I'm looking at £300-400 - hence why I'm not using (risking) the Hyundai warranty.

My concern was the longer I leave it, air enters the system and then I could be looking at a new receiver/drier as well.

Hyundai i20 - Air con leaking -can I postpone the repair ? - Galaxy

If the damage to the condenser has been caused by a stone, which is a fairly common occurrence, then I'm afraid I don't think Hyundai will be willing to repair the aircon under warranty. But you can try asking them by all means.

In terms of cost you would be much better off taking your car to an aircon independent and asking them to fit an OEM condenser, rather than a genuine Hyundai one, and test and regas the system. However, I don't know whether this action would invalidate the remainder of your Hyundai warranty, you would need to check.

As a guide, a genuine Ford condenser for my Mondeo was going to cost me nearly £400. I bought, and fitted an OEM one (manufactured by Hella) which cost £100. There's a big difference!

As aircon system had been open to the atmosphere for about 4 years before I repaired it I did purchase a new receiver/dryer. However, when the chap came to regas and test the system, he informed me it wasn't necessary to change it. The fact I'd already purchased the item, though, and couldn't send it back, I did insist it was fitted, which it duly was.

Hyundai i20 - Air con leaking -can I postpone the repair ? - SteveWiliam

I'm pretty sure the receiver/dryer is fitted to the side of the condenser and comes as one part. I've seen a replacement part for £70, add to that a regass and I could be looking at £140 . I suppose thats better than paying £60 (call me cynical) to hear the dealer tell me a stone caused the damaged and I've paid £60 for nothing.

Hyundai i20 - Air con leaking -can I postpone the repair ? - injection doc

Air con systems open to the elements can cause serious issues if left. The system is mostly alloy and corrodes. The pump is maintained by lubricant and if the system isnt run frequently tha pump seals will dry up and damage can occur to the pump on start up.

Once a system is open to the elements the reciver drier will quickly absorb the mositure and this will be detrimental later on when the system is run again as mositure absorber will freeze along with the rest of the system.

I have seen air con pumps shatter but i have also seen aircon pump belts shred and go up into the cambelt cover and wreck an engine.

The aircon ( so called specialist) that says a new reciver drier isnt needed when its been open to the elements ) is not a specialist at all as he is talking out of his port hole !!!

get it repaired.

Hyundai i20 - Air con leaking -can I postpone the repair ? - SteveWiliam

What if the air-con is not used ?

I dont really use it, so the last thing I want to do is pay out for a feature that is of no use to me.

Hyundai i20 - Air con leaking -can I postpone the repair ? - skidpan

Even though the car is under warranty, Hyundai still charge £60 to re-gas with a marker

Both Kia and Hyundai only warranty the gas for 2 years BUT if it needs a re-gas for another reason e.g. a broken pump then the re-gas is free.

The aircon (climate actually) on our 3 year old Ceed stopped working a few months ago. Dealer diagnosed a leaking condensor, I expected a big bill due to possible stone damage. Collected car and simply handed keys, totally free of charge, well happy.

Hyundai i20 - Air con leaking -can I postpone the repair ? - SteveWiliam

Both Kia and Hyundai only warranty the gas for 2 years BUT if it needs a re-gas for another reason e.g. a broken pump then the re-gas is free.

The £60 is charged up front by the three dealers I contacted. Then you take the chance of the condenser being damaged by road debris, in which case I'm A) I'm £60 down and B) Still have no air-con. Or it could be a warranty repair and then its free.

It would be helpful if I could spot any damage to the condenser, at least that way I know where I stand.

Hyundai i20 - Air con leaking -can I postpone the repair ? - thunderbird

If you carry on driving your car with faulty aircon nothing will happen. It will not get better but the rest of the car will carry on as normal.

BUT when you sell the car the buyer will almost certainly spot its not working and knock a suitable sum of their offer since at that time they will have no idea if its a simple re gas or much more expensive job.

Thus my advice is take it to either a Hyundai garage or a A/C specialist and let them diagnose the issue. It will cost you but if its a cheap re gas you will surely get it sorted and have a fully functioning car.

I also agree with the comments above about this being warranty work but I am surprised garages charge to diagnose issues that are warranty fixes. If I was told that I woudl be onto the manufacturer for advice (or find a better dealer).

Hyundai i20 - Air con leaking -can I postpone the repair ? - elekie&a/c doctor

Air con systems need to be air and moisture free to work efficiently.If the system is left in a non working condition with a known leak,then the system may become contaminated and cause problems in the future.Unfortunately most main dealers working on a/c within the warranty period will try to spin you the story of stone damage and not covered on the warranty.Having worked in the auto a/c industry for over 40 years ,I would say that the number of condensers that have genuinely been damaged by stones/debris can be counted on one hand.If the leak is as bad as it sounds,then it is unlikely that the system would be able to be re-charged,and the machine that is used will not allow the system to be filled.If the condensor has been hit by a stone,then you have been extremely unlucky.hth

Hyundai i20 - Air con leaking -can I postpone the repair ? - SteveWiliam

I've made the decision to leave it. I've spent too much time having hassle with Hyundai dealers and warranties

I doubt I will sell the car this side of 7 years old, and will take any financial hit (which will be limited at that age) on a non working a/c system. I know it wouldn't make much difference to me as a buyer and I imagine I'm not alone.

But many thanks for all the advice, at least has I suspected leaving it for a later repair is not wise, but I shall now be a happy non a/c car owner - just like the good old days before ECUs ruined the fun of working on cars. How I long for my old Ford Granada, Sierra and Vauxhall Carlton back.

Hyundai i20 - Air con leaking -can I postpone the repair ? - amandacumberbatch

The hissing noise sounds not good, might be it is due to the liquid coming out of the air-con. Hence, you should be more concerned about it and hire some credentialed and economical ac repair port st lucie technicians who would mend it in a day without creating any fuss.

Edited by amandacumberbatch on 21/03/2014 at 10:27

Hyundai i20 - Air con leaking -can I postpone the repair ? - skidpan

The hissing noise sounds not good, might be it is due to the liquid coming out of the air-con. Hence, you should be more concerned about it and hire some credentialed and economical ac repair port st lucie technicians who would mend it in a day without creating any fuss.

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Hyundai i20 - Air con leaking -can I postpone the repair ? - jc2

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Hyundai i20 - Air con leaking -can I postpone the repair ? - thunderbird

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