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From the daily mail - kwik fit - oldroverboy.

Kwik-Fit mechanics have been accused of ripping off customers by tricking them into paying for work they did not need.

The garage chain has been criticised after staff tried to con mystery shoppers into paying for more than £700 worth of work which was not necessary in an undercover investigation.

The team from the new BBC1 consumer show Your Money, Their Tricks, made the allegations after sending 10 cars into 10 Kwik-Fit branches across Britain for a 'free brake check' and 'free tyre check'.



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From the daily mail - kwik fit - Roly93

Many years ago I had a company car, and the lease copmpany specified Kwik Fit only for new tyres.

I was having some tyres fitted one day and whilst I was waiting I saw Kwik Fit relieve an elderley gentleman of the cash for new shocksa all round on the basis of non-existent leaking oil. How do I know this ? I was standing virtually next to the car belonging to the customer and there was no leaking shocks on it !

I rest my case your honour !

From the daily mail - kwik fit - gordonbennet

I was having some tyres fitted one day and whilst I was waiting I saw Kwik Fit relieve an elderley gentleman of the cash for new shocksa all round on the basis of non-existent leaking oil. How do I know this ? I was standing virtually next to the car belonging to the customer and there was no leaking shocks on it !

Didn't you pipe up and defend this old chap?

If it was that blatant i'd have had to shove me nose in.

From the daily mail - kwik fit - Doc

I was having some tyres fitted one day and whilst I was waiting I saw Kwik Fit relieve an elderley gentleman of the cash for new shocksa all round on the basis of non-existent leaking oil. How do I know this ? I was standing virtually next to the car belonging to the customer and there was no leaking shocks on it !


This has been commom practice for many years at this establishment.

Which is why I never go near the place.

From the daily mail - kwik fit - Sofa Spud

I had to get a new tyre while on holiday a few years ago. I decided it was a good idea to have both sides done at the same time so I went to the nearest tyre fitter, which happened to be a Kwik Fit. They offered to check the tracking at the same time (I think it was on a free offer) so I said go ahead.

Anyway, within 1000 miles the two new front tyres were worn right down on the inner edges, so I took the car to another Kwik Fit branch, the nearest to my home. There the manager dismissed the tyre wear and claimed someone driving the car had probably hit a kerb. He refused to check the tracking.

So I took the car to another tyre dealer, the company I normally use. As well as having to replace the 2 worn-out new tyres, they checked the tracking and found 8 degrees of toe-out, when there should be zero! You can guess what the fitters had to say about Kwik Fit!

Unfortunately, by having to replace the worn-out tyres because I needed to use the car, I'd effectively destroyed the evidence, so was unable to pursue the matter.

The most surprising thing about the 1000 odd miles when the tracking was so wrong is that the car was not only driveable, but I hadn't noticed any deterioration in the handling !!

Edited by Sofa Spud on 12/07/2013 at 13:08

From the daily mail - kwik fit - gordonbennet

8' of toe out would have been visible to the naked eye as well as effectively braking the car constantly, how on earth did they manage to get it so far out, i'm surprised you didn't notice how far out whilst approaching the vehicle parked on flat ground.

I used to align my own and others cars at one time, two thin copper rods one a sliding fit inside the other, measure inside the wheel edges front and rear of the wheel at the same mid height point, certainly more accurate than the best laser alignment equipment operated by a chimp.

Edited by gordonbennet on 12/07/2013 at 13:12

From the daily mail - kwik fit - Sofa Spud

It probably would have been visible to the naked eye, but I didn't have any cause to look closely at the wheels, or indeed the new tyres, as I was unaware there was anything wrong. As I said, surprisingly there wasn't a noticeble deterioration in the handling. I only discovered the worn inner edges by accident, probably while cleaning the car, I can't remember, since the rest of the tread looked perfect.

What I do remember is that the fitter who did the tracking wrong had a shaved head, ear-ring and called me 'sir' a lot - a fatal combination!!!

Edited by Sofa Spud on 12/07/2013 at 13:19

From the daily mail - kwik fit - Durelli_tyres

Bit of a tangent, but as we are talking about Kwik Fit

I was getting an insurance quote over thephone from Kwik Fit insurance a few years ago which I believe was based in Glasgow.

Call was progressing normally, and then there was bit of a commotion in the background and the guy I was talking too said there was a Police raid of the office!

Needless to say I didn't take up the offer of insurance.

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From the daily mail - kwik fit - Bobbin Threadbare

Kwik Fit tried to force me into having a new tyre - mine was worn right away apparently, and not legal. I'd had it done nice and new at ATS a week before, after a slow puncture. I also didn't get any oil after a service - they just didn't fill it up after draining over 3/4 of the old stuff; not a happy bunny!

From the daily mail - kwik fit - FP

I normally avoid outfits like KwikFit like the plague. However, twice during recent years I've used them when there was little choice.

The first was when my exhaust gave up on a trip to Cornwall; I limped into Falmouth late on a Friday sounding like a moto-cross rally and KwikFit was the only place in town that could get the job done the following morning. The system they put in lasted quite a few years until I sold the car.

The other was when my alternator failed on an appallingly wet journey north on the M1, once again on a Friday. I nursed the car into the outskirts of Derby and arrived at a KwikFit shortly before they closed for the day. The car was repaired by noon the next morning and has performed faultlessly since.

On neither occasion was I pressured to buy anything other than what I was there for and on neither occasion did subsequent research suggest I had been overcharged.

I would still treat them with the utmost circumspection.

Edited by FP on 12/07/2013 at 19:43

From the daily mail - kwik fit - jonmac

I remember a friend of mine went to Quick fit to have a couple of tyres replaced. The young "mechanic" who was doing the job informed him that the shock absorbers needed replacing as they were leaking. My friend gave him the go ahead. When they came with the bill my friend took out the 1 year guarantee for the shock absorbers that the same Branch of Quick fit had fitted 3 month earlier. He thanked them for there efficient service. Paid for the tyres and drove away.

From the daily mail - kwik fit - 1litregolfeater

Bloomin eck surely not.

From the daily mail - kwik fit - Hamsafar

I remember back in the late 1980's, my Father's colleague took his car there for a new exhaust in Avonmouth as he was there on business when it failed.

He then drove somewhere in the south where he lived but the exhaust internals fell apart on the motorways emitting a concophony of noises and fibre glass 'hair'.

He took it to his local Kwik Fit for a warranty claim, and they said - because he drove it on the motorway when it was new, it wasn't covered as it needs to get hot and cold a few times on local journeys before going on the motoway.

He pursued it further with the branch that fitted it and head office but I can't remember the outcome.

Also in 1999, gf took a Punto there as I was busy at work, the Punto had a concealed tailpipe and they fitted an exhaust that hung down at a funny angle and scraped the kerb if you drove half on the pavement. It was like a one-size-fits-many universal exhaust, and was £220, I had to take it backa nd they swapped it for a proper one and acted all surprised like they couldn't understand what the problem was.

I made a mental note of never going there. In the days when I needed a new exhaust every 2-3 years I never went on the motorway for a few days, never been sure if it was BS, but I can see how it could need tempering, but this should be done at the factory.

Edited by Hamsafar on 13/07/2013 at 11:48

From the daily mail - kwik fit - oldroverboy.

Recent personal experience here in wales,

took new rim in to fit new spare tyre, was charged for disposal of "old tyre" and £1.50 for nitrogen fill, got refund for both!

Lesson has been learned.

From the daily mail - kwik fit - daveyK_UK

I have noticed an increase in Halford autocentres.

Are they just as bad?

From the daily mail - kwik fit - bathtub tom

I know a 'special needs' teacher who's stopped using certain places. She kept meeting ex-pupils and knew their demeanour!

From the daily mail - kwik fit - brum

Slightly surprised at the vitroil being dished out.

Yes, if you are unknowledgable (and women seem particularly prone in this area), sometimes you can get talked into things being done that may be not that necessary, however my experience shows this is largely down to the centre manager.

Personally, I've had some really good service from Kwikfit - the lads have done minor repairs to exhausts (changed rotten clamps etc) FOC, refusing to accept payment "so that I come back for other bigger jobs". I had a passat may years ago and got an exhaust with a lifetime guarantee - they changed it without quibble 3 times over about 9 years! They've always price matched tyres and I have had no reservations about tyre fitting and balance, with one exception - when I stopped a couple of apprentices trying to jack my Alhambra on the sills (NO! Dont do that!).

The aircon service is about as good as it gets PROVIDED the person using the machine is properly trained - the machine is foolproof however and the "no improvement - no charge" policy is excellent.

In all its all down to the centre manager - I've come across one that was not up to much, but the rest I've encountered are all OK to good.

Lets face it, all the bad experiences recounted here are equally likely to happen at many many garages etc, in particular main dealers - where the price pain is likely to be much more acute, and the consequential damage or "keep changing things until its fixed and charge the customer" can be eyewateringly expensive.

It helps greatly if you as a customer keeps an eye on things and do the ultimate QA.

I'm also always surprised how many people never try to haggle on price....

Edited by brum on 13/07/2013 at 18:37

From the daily mail - kwik fit - thunderbird

Normally avoid Kwik Fit and such places but a few years ago I used them because they were convenient, 1/2 way between home and dads house.

Wifeys car had been serviced by Ford dealer previous day who said front tyres were illegal, bald on inside. New tyres were £80 for budgets (205/55 16) plus checking tracking was £75 and adjusting it another undisclosed sum based on the time taken. Declined their kind offer.

Kwik Fit was FOC for a tracking check, said it was toeing out which was indicated by the tyres. £25 to adjust it. Said I needed 2 new tyres (which I knew) but I said I would get them from my usual supplier (who works from a small shed) near where I worked. He asked how much and since I had no idea I simply told him the price I had paid a couple of years previously for the same tyre on a Mondeo, £65 for Pirellis. Sharp intake of breath and he said he could match it. So I let them do it and expected a bill for £155. Was surprised when they charged me £145, obviously maths was not on the guys GCSE list.

So we got 2 tyres and the tracking sorted fo less than 2 budget tyres at Ford. kept car for another 3 years, had to replace tyres again eventually but the tracking was spot on and they were worn evenly.

Must have gone on a good day.

From the daily mail - kwik fit - oldroverboy.

Our local kwik fit now has the former manager of national tyres (who happen to be opposite) and yes I agree, depends on the centre and manager. Hopefully things will be ok, but buyer beware is my motto. I have seen in a brief period the systemic overcharging in a certain swedish dealership (now no longer with that franchise) where the aftersales staff were encouraged to inflate labour costs.

There are good and bad everywhere. i found a few years ago in france a mechanic who fixed the car just when the garage was closing and spent about an hour on it and would not take any more than the prescribed labour rates. (but had a few beers with me at the bar nearby.)

Edited by oldroverboy. on 13/07/2013 at 20:23

From the daily mail - kwik fit - daveyK_UK

My experience with kwik fit is when they ask is it your car or business car.

If you whisper the word business, pound signs appear in their eyes.

From the daily mail - kwik fit - brum

My experience with kwik fit is when they ask is it your car or business car.

If you whisper the word business, pound signs appear in their eyes.

I don't think thats true. I've seen on many occasion them serve business and motabilty customers and the stories the same - they look it up on their system - they must supply the tyre type specified by the business/finance company and in the majority of instances have to phone them and get purchase authorisation which can take from minutes to much longer.

From the daily mail - kwik fit - TeeCee

As you say, good and bad.

Once I took my old Skoda Rapid into the brnach in Crouch End to have its exhaust sorted under their warranty. The senior fitter who looked at it swore long and hard[1], looked at the original invoice and described the fitter to a "T".

When I confirmed that was indeed the culprit, he pointed out that he'd worked for this branch too and had been fired for being thoroughly useless. If you ever needed an illustration of why the franchise model is fundamentally flawed.....

We were there for quite some time, teasing the broken studs out of the manifold.

[1] Manifold nuts. a) Steel rather than Brass. b) The wrong thread. c) Forced on with a windy gun. Yes, the whole set sheared.....

From the daily mail - kwik fit - balleballe

I have noticed an increase in Halford autocentres.

Are they just as bad?

The one in Sunderland is yes, cant comment on the others

From the daily mail - kwik fit - John F

Possibly tip of iceberg. I was very pleased to see this programme.

Some years ago my son was nearly scammed by an MoT emissions test failure for which the suggested remedy was their own brand of catalytic converter for several hundred pounds, (more than his car was worth), no charge for retest. I intervened, paid the test fee, drove less than a mile to my usual garage; passed the emissions test, complained to head office, got test fee back plus standard placatory apology.

It might be libellous to explain here how this is done, so I won't. The experts on this site will know how it's done, though.

From the daily mail - kwik fit - Galaxy

Some years ago I was having problems with tracking on one of my cars, a Ford Capri. So I took it to a local branch of Kwik-Fit and asked them to check the tracking. Needless to say, when they came back to me, the informed me it needed adjusting, and, knowing that there were problems, I told them to go ahead. Paid the bill and left, but the problems remained, so I took the car back. They rechecked the tracking and assured me that it was correct, but I wasn't happy.

So, I then took the car to my local Ford Main Dealer and asked them to check the tracking, after telling them of my previous experience. When the technicial returned he asked me if I wanted the good news or the bad news first! I said I wasn't sure, so he proceeded to tell me, anyway.

The good news was that the tracking was set to the correct figure. The bad news was that Kwik-Fit had tracked it "backwards", i.e. set to toe-out instead of toe-in! So I asked them to adjust it, and afterwards it was fine. I did go back to Kwik-Fit and, after a bit of an argument, did manage to claim my money back. They said I should have bought the car back to them, I told them I'd done that already and they failed to solve the problem.

From the daily mail - kwik fit - idle_chatterer

Some years ago I was having problems with tracking on one of my cars, a Ford Capri.

This implies to me that your experience was perhaps a few years ago ?

I've found these rapid-fit places to be variable but wouldn't single out any for particular criticism... IIRC when I lived in the NW I used ATS (for my company car) because a) they were authorised by the leasing company to fit Michelins and b) they could get the tracking and balancing right (which their rivals seemed unable to do).

However, when living in a commutter town west of London I found Kwick-Fit to be the better place to go.

As other posters have said, it probably depends on the branch and the staff ?

From the daily mail - kwik fit - Leif

It's not just Kwik Fit, the garage trade as a whole is iffy, as are builders, and trades in general. I had two front tryes fitted at a local tyre and exhaust centre and got shafted for £120, with all the side charges, whereas the Nissan garage charged £60. I refused the £20 tracking check, but they did it anyway, and found the tracking completely out, despute that I know the tracking was okay. When the chap explained to me what was wrong, I asked him questions, and the young lads behind him were trying hard to suppress laughter at the porkies he was coming out with. Rather than make a scene, I paid and did not go back.

I was screwed by a local Ford garage. What turned out to be required fixes for the MOT were only advisories. I had to shout as loud as I could at the [child of unmarried parents] to get him to show me the original MOT certificate, to find that out. When I mentioned this to my neighbour, he said he had his car fail an MOT at that garage for rusted brake pipes. But they were copper!

I could go on about how many trades are either incompetent or cut corners. I had a bathroom completely screwed by cowboys. Sadly, as it gives the good ones a bad name.

From the daily mail - kwik fit - madf

My experience is mixed,

I will ignore teh stuff 20 odd years ago - and relate the past decade only.

Their winter offers of half price aircon recharging were good and they did a good job.

Their MOT service half price is excellent. No false claims, on time, no fuss.

But on tracking, they twice failed to track my Yaris correctly. I took it to ATS who did get it right and appear to have better equipment - that was 4-5 years ago.

I find ATS better for tyres and tracking as a result and no longer use KF for that.

Edit I would not take kindly to swindling.But then I am a reasonably semi competent amateur and the local branch know me.


Edited by madf on 15/07/2013 at 12:53