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cloned car.or is it? - hookster66

a cloned car...to my way of thinking, is a car carrying markings (vin plate reg plate etc) replicating another car.

but how about this........that a car is imported, and an application for registration is presented to a local dvla with a false Certificate of Conformity (CoC) and fake notes purporting to show that Import duties have been paid paid,plus a fake invoice from an overseas dealership...dvla then accept all these docs (perhaps at face value,it would be logical to presume so) and register the car (without ,claim dvla,a visual inspection) and so give it a number plate/V5...car is now sold through a high-end dealership. some months later the car is stolen.

and of course,insurer wont pay...insurer states that the car is a 'ghost' ...a car that never existed though made to appear that it does.what say you learned people?

cloned car.or is it? - Armitage Shanks {p}

If the DVLA admit its existence and have issued a number plate and paperwork surely the car "Exists". Typical weasly insurer IMO, theoretically of course!

cloned car.or is it? - dacouch

Was this car stolen / lost whilst abroad?

cloned car.or is it? - TeeCee

a cloned car...to my way of thinking, is a car carrying markings (vin plate reg plate etc) replicating another car.

Mine too. Two honest-to-god genuine physical vehicles with the same identity, one of which is not entitled to it.

Presumably this is a continuation of your "lambo spyder" thread and you've now found out that much of the documentation associated with your car is actually bent?

The problem here is that the insurers have also worked this out and come to the conclusion that the car never existed except on paper. It may be difficult to prove otherwise.

I wouldn't be at all surprised to find that those who now have your car are exactly the same people who sold it to you(!) Provide car to buyer in country A on import with bent paperwork, wait a bit, nick it back from where you know it is, using the spare keys you thoughtfully retained. Repeat in countries B, C, D........etc ad nauseum.

I also wouldn't be surprised to find that the only reason it never got to its first service is that the perpetrators clock it between sales.

The police might be interested in the paperwork and a description of the vendor....

cloned car.or is it? - hookster66

it is a continuation, you are right re Insurer conclusion...I concur with way of thinkiing, the seller nicks the car back, (either the garage or associates,the tracker company even...) each knows the cars whereabouts.They nicked it using the keys from a break-in.will be a long drawn out affair i can foresee

cloned car.or is it? - nortones2

The Op might find this link intersting. It dates back to 2004 but it has some pointers re cloned cars, especially one as distinctive as a Lambo (if still in the UK). www.popcenter.org/library/awards/tilley/2004/04-47...f

The point is that criminals tend not to register anew, but run around uninsured and care free re traffic laws. Snail trail of speeding fines results. Assuming the OP has not been pestered on tis - it possibly means the car is over the seas now:(

See also page 13 re title.