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Modern diesel engines - looking after one to get the best out of it - cws

I'm now on my 4th diesel car - this time a C Class W203 CDI220 (2006) with 81000miles on the clock. Previous diesel cars I owned were all VAG cars (VE and PD engines), so this engine is all new to me in terms of it being common rail and Euro 4.

I'm just wondering what best practice/good habits are for a modern diesel? I'll be changing the oil every 8000miles (MB interval is around 16000 - TOO long to my mind!), and using a Bosch filter and low ash oil (to spec mb229.5). Even though the car does not have a DPF fitted, I've been told that the low ash oil is the best to use/more refined (correct ?). I'm also planning to use Comma oil Syner Z, as it meets the MB spec and I can get it cheaper, and am told it's Esso rebranded!

What are opinions on injector cleaners such as Redex and Millers - any good?

The MB interval on fuel filters is something like 60000 miles (can't be certain without checking the service book) - opinions on this??

Any other useful tips?

Modern diesel engines - looking after one to get the best out of it - Peter.N.

You already have it, changing the oil at twice the recommended frequency is the best thing you can do. I'm sure many of these turbo failures are due to dirty oil/oilways. I wouldn't go for very expensive oil though, I use the cheapest I can find with the correct spec, for my Hdi's this is Comma semi synthetic at around £13.00 for 5 litres which I get from Trago mills but it must be available else where.

I have never used or needed to use injector cleaner although most of my miles have been done in IDI engines, I have had a couple of those in XMs that have done nearly 300,000 miles with little or no attention.

The only other thing you can do is drive it respectfully and gently, this gives the bonus of better fuel consumption.

Modern diesel engines - looking after one to get the best out of it - craig-pd130

My 10 pence worth is, treat it with respect for the first couple of miles while warming up, then just drive it .... and don't ask it to do too much below 1,500rpm or above 4,000rpm.

Lugging at very low revs is bad for DMFs, and there's hardly any need to rev a modern diesel engine hard -- you can get pretty much all the go you need from modern diesels without taking it beyond 3.500.

However, it is worth the occasional run round to 3,500 to blow out soot etc.

Modern diesel engines - looking after one to get the best out of it - unthrottled

Completely agree with Craig. 1500RPM-3500RPM sounds like a short rev range, but if you think of it in terms of ratio, it's pretty decent-still plenty of scope to skip shift.

Modern diesel engines - looking after one to get the best out of it - gordonbennet

Excellent advice above and agree with your servicing regime, though i would be using Millers or Fuchs oils.

My MB indy maintains private hire MB 220d's for a taxi company i worked part time for many years ago, using Fuchs oils and driven competently (this is an old and professional taxi company not bodgit and scarper fly by nights) they have recently been replaced with new cars after covering over 400k miles with little if any problems during their service lives, E classes again.

If your MB is auto get the transmission oil changed around every 50k miles or so.

Corrosion is likely to be your biggest worry, keep it clean and salt free underneath and consider waxoyling.

Modern diesel engines - looking after one to get the best out of it - cws

Thanks for the above.

It is an autobox (722.6 transmission), so will be changing the oil/filter in line with MB's guidlines of 40K intervals. Also planning to change the rear diff oil at the same time.

I'm not overly worried about corrosion - I purposely went for a 2005plus Mercedes, as from this point on they got to the root of and fixed many of the issues leading to corrosion (re-galvanising all panels, seam folds being properly sealed etc).

I'm not surprised about the taxi cars having covered 400K miles! Most German taxi drivers don't run MB diesels for nothing - rumours abound of W124 cars (the old 200 Mercs) having done a million miles back in the day!!!!

Modern diesel engines - looking after one to get the best out of it - gordonbennet
'm not overly worried about corrosion - I purposely went for a 2005plus Mercedes, as from this point on they got to the root of and fixed many of the issues leading to corrosion (re-galvanising all panels, seam folds being properly sealed etc).

Galvanised MB's are still corroding where the rear wheel arch lips full of salt embedded mud, have seen photos of such several times.

Might be worth keeping an eye on the front cross member too, remember the W210s undertray formed a watertight seal leading to a permanent salt water bath for the cross member, many corroded right through, those in the know simply put a couple of washers between the tray and the cross member to make a gap for water to escape.

One point to note, is your car within the problem Valeo radiator time range, those rads can leak internally leading to coolant contamination of the transmission.

Your servicing plan sounds good, should get many years from the car.

My E320 124 coupe is now 17 years i've had it over 10, it runs beautifully, the drive train has never been touched apart from servicing, has been very reliable, showing signs of minor corrosion in places now though, if i keep it another 3 years i shall probably put it in for a full underbody and shell refurb...the ace up my sleeve is the country's oldest established MB indy is 10 miles away he keeps it well fettled without the main dealer bad joke costs.

Edited by gordonbennet on 20/03/2013 at 08:23

Modern diesel engines - looking after one to get the best out of it - cws

I think I know the potential trouble spot you're talking about and have been giving this spot repeated blasts with a hose to push out the dirt and crud out. Also only the early W203's had the bad Valeo rads - mine, on a 56 plate, is well in the safe zone. Also the W203 doesn't have the cross member issue you mention.

I purposely went for a late W203 on the advice of 2 friends - one a current MB mechanic and the other ex-MB mechanic. Both of them said get as late a car as possible, as many problems were really got a hold of/solved at MB after 2005. Thank God they've now dumped Chrysler!

Who is the MB indy near you?

Unfortunately there don't appear to be any good MB indy's near me - I'm weary of garages that have slogans such as 'German prestige car specialists'! Most aren't even using MB STAR which means they're not true MB indy's (to my mind anyway). My car has full MB service history, which was one of the various reasons I bought it. I don't want to pay MB's horrendous A and B service plan costs though (£260 for an oil change!!), but plan to use the MB 7+ Value service plan > £139 for oil change and inspection. This keeps the stamps in the book, at a more sensible price. All other work I'll do myself and just keep the parts receipts.

Modern diesel engines - looking after one to get the best out of it - gordonbennet

''Who is the MB indy near you?''

Not prepared to name him on open forum, he has more than enough work and can barely cope with existing load, he's about as far from the 'German Prestige Car Specialist' indy as you could imagine, but then i'm not paying for receptionists glass palaces managers company cars and knee deep carpets which suits me fine..;)....yes has Star, but the overall product knowledge is staggering.

If you contact Avant the mod i'm sure he'll send my email address to you (feel free Avant if requested by CWS) and i'll let you know by PM, Northamptonshire by the way though people travel from surpirsing distance.

MBS Southampton gets very well spoken of in the South too if closer.

Modern diesel engines - looking after one to get the best out of it - willingtonsteve

As does BENZA Auto's on the Wirral.

Modern diesel engines - looking after one to get the best out of it - BigJohnD

As does BENZA Auto's on the Wirral.

Corporation Road? Used to pass it daily when I worked in Brokenhead!

Modern diesel engines - looking after one to get the best out of it - BigJohnD

As others have said, changing the oil and filter at the mid-point of service intervals is no bad thing. Low SAPS oils are good for catalysts. Use genuine OEM filters; 3rd party copies can be unreliable.

Proprietary additives are marmite - some people love them; others think they are an expensive waste which do nothing at best.

Long journeys are good for diesels, not least because they can take a long time to warm-up and the engine works best when hot.

If a DMF fails, it usually can be replaced with a conventional single plate system.

Look after your motor and it will look after you!

Modern diesel engines - looking after one to get the best out of it - cws

No DMF fitted : -)