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Hybrid - Nearly New Car - Collos25

I have decided I need a new car for the UK I use to travel hundreds of miles a week but now I am retired I am lucky if I travel 50miles ,I once used a Toyota Prius Spirit for a month and it was very boring but well equiped.I have had look around on Autotrader and have narrowed my choice down to three types an Insight,Civic or a Prius the Prius must be a Spirit version because of the sat nav the other two its not important what model it is. All three cars have a good reputation for build quality and have an extended warranty on the batteries I am tempted by the Insight as I like the looks on the downside I cannot see anybody who makes a towbar for these cars all I want to fit is my towbar mounted bike rack.Has anbody any views on these cars or any another that will fit the bill.

Hybrid - Nearly New Car - puckdrop

Hi,

You cannot add a towbar to a prius - it's not "type approved". They do in America, but they're different :-)

I have a 2007 T-Spirit, my other half just bought a Jazz Hybrid. While at the dealers I sat in an Insight, and found it far too cramped for my 6ft 5 rather large frame.

To be honest.. I'd be questioning your choice of a hybrid at all for such low mileage...

Hybrid - Nearly New Car - gordonbennet

Agree with Puckdrop, for 50 miles or so a week would you consider a petrol Avensis or similar instead, good value nice auto, frugal and will be reliable with the best customer service back up in the industry, towbar not a problem.

I like them a lot as i do most Toyotas, indeed if it wasn't for the electric handbrake i'd probably have had one already, if you have similar anti electric brake feelings then new Auris could be a possibility... i wonder if next Avensis will revert to norm?

Regarding makers satnavs i find them very good once running but a faff to program in the first place, good quality aftermarket Garmin out of the question?

Hybrid - Nearly New Car - Collos25

I already own two BMWs one large one small one auto one manual ,the reason for the sat nav is I do not want a large colour screen infront of me to watch a picture of wheels turning.I have a double din sat nav that will fit into a Insight or Civic if I so wished but as long as as it plays MP3 discs thats all that matters.Extremely cheap road tax,the insurance is very cheap,reasonably economical and hold there value well are my main reasons as well as having something different.

Hybrid - Nearly New Car - RT

The Toyota Prius and Honda Insight aren't Type-Approved for towing so you can't fit a towbar, even for non-towing purposes.

Hybrid - Nearly New Car - Collos25

Found a number of suppliers of hitchs in America so it appears one of my problems solved.

Hybrid - Nearly New Car - RT

US towing hitches are considerably different to European ones - the US usually have a square receiver socket of differing sizes for different trailer weight classes - you may need to get a bike rack from there as well as the two-bolt flange and/or 50mm ball are Euro standard only.

Hybrid - Nearly New Car - puckdrop

Plus insurers probably won't touch you before/after any accident...

FYI the Jazz Hybrid is not type certified either.

Hybrid - Nearly New Car - Collos25

I have a convertor somewhere in the workshop.

Hybrid - Nearly New Car - TeeCee

1) The Prius is the largest of the three.

2) While an actual towbar cannot be fitted to the Prius (or either of the others as all are CVT of some sort or other), there is an official bike rack mount from Toyota. This is to all intents and purposes a towbar, but sports a square post to accept a rack directly rather than a ball. If you shop around you may find one that already has this fitted.

If you fit an actual towbar (including any of the "naughty" aftermarket US offerings) it will invalidate any warranty. "Thous shalt not tow anything under any circumstances" is clearly stated in the manual.

Edited by TeeCee on 19/03/2013 at 15:07

Hybrid - Nearly New Car - Collos25

I found a bike rack specially for the Prius on ebay would suit down to the ground thanks for the info.One or two cars lined up to look at when I return to the UK next week.

Hybrid - Nearly New Car - ear8dmg

If you're looking for high mpg to save costs, this seems a pointless exercise. 50 miles per week is 2600 miles per year. That's around £500 fuel costs per year in a naturally aspirated petrol car doing 30mpg.

Taking 56 mpg from the RealMPG register for a 2010 onwards Prius, and you're talking just under £300. Add on another bit of cash for tax and you're talking about only £300-400 saving per year in terms of running costs.

Also bear in mind - in Winter the prius will still need to warm up so you're going to be using the engine on short journeys for half the year thereby getting little better than the NA petrol.

A Prius is going to cost you thousands more than an equivalent age / spec naturally aspriated estate, mpg or large hatchback. You'll never make the money back. The difference in environmental impact will be similarly small.

Edit: I own an insight 2. You can get a receiver hitch kit for them from the states that will take a bike rack (best to talk to Honda about how it might affect the warranty though). But in my case I got the Insight used on a deal that meant I wasn't paying much more than an equivalent spec / age petrol Focus or Civic. If it hadn't been for one coming up at a very attractive price I'd probably be driving something else. Love the car by the way but the ride can be a bit harsh on speed bumpy / potholed roads.

Edited by ear8dmg on 28/03/2013 at 16:41