Volvo XC90 (II) D5 256 2016 - Volvo XC90 Diesel Significant Lack of Power & MPG - A Andrews

Apologies for this being so long but I want to be as comprehensive as possible, not least to avoid putting well-meaning forum contributors to unnecessary efforts in trying to help advise me on things that have already been considered.

Car: 2016 VOLVO XC90 2 (256) D5 AWD 224 CV. 115,000 km (71,000 miles) In France

Problems:

1. Significant lack of power. Acceleration is much slower than is usual. Car will only overtake much slower vehicles either on the flat or downhill. Uphill, speed decreases and the gearbox changes down to third while revs climb slowly to a maximum of about 3500 rpm, without changing up a gear. Driving manually makes no difference. If I change up to 4th while uphill, speed drops off.

Even while driving on the flat, If I press hard on the accelerator nothing happens for just over a second. Nothing at all. The revs then rise very slowly.

2. There is a single error read using my OBD2 reader. P2262 “Turbocharger/Supercharger Boost Pressure 'A' Not Detected”

3. Vastly increased fuel consumption. Even with the very lightest right foot (not that a heavier foot makes any difference) I am averaging 12.4 L/100km or 23mpg imperial even when driving at around 90kmh or 60mph. I have not once bettered 11 L/100km (25mpg) since this problem arose 6 months ago.

4. Traces of soot around exhaust pipe tails. Nothing too bad. No obvious signs of smoke.

What has been done:

The car has been at my local Volvo dealer 4 times in an effort to resolve the errors. 2x “diagnostics” including smoke test.

Volvo

first changed the EGR valve and cooler. This did look to be stuck when the vacuum hose was connected to a pump but I was mostly relying on the Volvo mechnic’s word that it had failed.

I was advised that the next step would be to clean the inlet manifold. The quote for this was ridiculous so I removed the manifold and did it myself. It was a bit grubby, but mostly disappointingly clean. The engine inlet ports didn’t look too bad so I left them alone.

The exhaust gas pressure sensor was replaced. There seemed nothing wrong with the old one.

VIDA showed nothing useful, according to the garage.

Last routine service was performed by Volvo last Summer a couple of months before these problems arose.

Me

I cleaned the inlet manifold (see above)

I swapped over the two identical MAP sensors and replaced one that looked slightly damaged with a new part from Bosch. No difference to the error message or symptoms.

Although already done by Volvo, I did a full vacuum circuit test with a pump and manometer. I swapped the two identical turbo control valves and bought a new one, just because it was relatively cheap and I was getting desperate. No change.

I spent days and days researching online for a possible solution and talking to friends, etc.

Second Garage

Diagnostics including road tests were performed by a very highly-regarded Bosch specialist garage in the local large town. This was done twice. Garage had no idea what the problem was and were not happy to proceed further.

Third Garage

This is another local garage with a good reputation. They’ve got plenty of kit (not VIDA) but are also a proper, old-school outfit who want to see happy customers.

The car was in for a week. I was advised that as everything else seemed fine, the problem was 90% certain to be with the twin turbo unit. This garage does not rebuild turbos and I could not find anyone within 100km of me prepared to perform a turbo repair. I was quoted just over €4600 for a turbo unit from Volvo. I bought a remanufactured, guaranteed unit from the Netherlands for less than half this amount, but not much less. These seem common enough in UK but were not available readily here in France. Importing from UK is difficult.

I have had the car back from the third garage for a few days. It was with them for 5 weeks. New turbo fitted. Hours and hours of work was expended with other garages being consulted and another mechanic borrowed for 3 hours to inspect the car in case anything had been overlooked. I was only billed for 10 hours, but then I was advised to buy a new turbo.

And now

I have not progressed beyond stage one.

The bills paid exceed €5500.

The sole OBD error is the same P2262 which can be cleared but which arises on first accelerating, together with the CEL light.

Please, please can any kind person give me advice, other than to set fire to the car, or whatever? I am practical, not a bad engineer and have a pretty fair idea about modern engines but am at the end of my tether.

Volvo XC90 (II) D5 256 2016 - Volvo XC90 Diesel Significant Lack of Power & MPG - paul 1963

Have you checked that the exhaust isn't blocked? Collapsed silencer would give the sort of symptoms your experiencing.

Volvo XC90 (II) D5 256 2016 - Volvo XC90 Diesel Significant Lack of Power & MPG - A Andrews

Thanks for this, and for replying so quickly. I'm pretty sure the last garage would have done this because they did not fail lightly and spent many, many hours on this. Still, I will try to give this a go. I imagine I need to disconnect the outlet of the DPF. Many people complain about engine access but this car really would win prizes. I think the engine needed to be dropped to change the turbo. I changed the started motor last year and that was very difficult indeed.

Volvo XC90 (II) D5 256 2016 - Volvo XC90 Diesel Significant Lack of Power & MPG - elekie&a/c doctor
Sounds to me like there’s an air leak in the boost pressure system. Has the inlet tract been smoke tested ? Possible intercooler split and leaking boost air ?
Volvo XC90 (II) D5 256 2016 - Volvo XC90 Diesel Significant Lack of Power & MPG - A Andrews

Thanks for the advice. Volvo did a smoke test and the last garage also. They latter is convinced there is no leak.

Volvo XC90 (II) D5 256 2016 - Volvo XC90 Diesel Significant Lack of Power & MPG - Adampr

I suspect you're considerably more competent than me, so please take this as a 'fresh.pair.of eyes' rather than expert advice.

Your symptoms sound exactly like a problem with the turbo. You are trying to work out if you have a mechanical problem or an electronic one. Given the work you've done, I suspect the latter.

If you put it in neutral and rev it, can you hear the turbo spinning up?

Volvo XC90 (II) D5 256 2016 - Volvo XC90 Diesel Significant Lack of Power & MPG - A Andrews

Thanks, Adam. With respect to an electronic fault I think you must be on the right lines. The last garage can only think there is a software fault which is forcing the boost to collapse before it builds fully.

The last garage used a piece of kit that allowed them to measure actual, rather than calculated boost. They said it measured 1.6 bar and which they reckoned was normal. Where this boost goes is anybody's question because the car seems 100% normally aspirated.

I can't hear the turbo spinning. Looking at the wastegate actuator, it seems that unless the car is moving the wastegate is open. I'm not sure whether this is normal or not. It would seem reasonable.

I do know that I should return to Volvo again in order for them to perform another diagnostic and to reload software. The slight problem I have is that after my fourth visit to them I became rather grumpy when they replaced the exhaust pressure pipe and sensor when there was no fault with it.

Volvo XC90 (II) D5 256 2016 - Volvo XC90 Diesel Significant Lack of Power & MPG - galileo

Thanks, Adam. With respect to an electronic fault I think you must be on the right lines. The last garage can only think there is a software fault which is forcing the boost to collapse before it builds fully.

The last garage used a piece of kit that allowed them to measure actual, rather than calculated boost. They said it measured 1.6 bar and which they reckoned was normal. Where this boost goes is anybody's question because the car seems 100% normally aspirated.

I can't hear the turbo spinning. Looking at the wastegate actuator, it seems that unless the car is moving the wastegate is open. I'm not sure whether this is normal or not. It would seem reasonable.

The wastegate should only open to prevent too much boost or overspeed of the turbo, so should normally be closed, this explains why it runs as if normally aspirated.

I worked at a turbo manufacturer for 36 years, drove experimental installations on cars not then produced turbocharged, a turbo increased performance about 50%.

If one garage claimed to measure boost at 1.6 bar, where did they measure it? presumably not at the inlet manifold.

Volvo XC90 (II) D5 256 2016 - Volvo XC90 Diesel Significant Lack of Power & MPG - A Andrews

Thank very much for this very useful information. I will re-check what I stated about the actuator position over the weekend. I don't know where the boost was measured.

Volvo XC90 (II) D5 256 2016 - Volvo XC90 Diesel Significant Lack of Power & MPG - Adampr

I don't think your waste gate should be open at idle.

Volvo XC90 (II) D5 256 2016 - Volvo XC90 Diesel Significant Lack of Power & MPG - A Andrews

Thanks again for the advice. See my reply to the other contributor above.

Volvo XC90 (II) D5 256 2016 - Volvo XC90 Diesel Significant Lack of Power & MPG - gordonbennet

Has anyone changed the fuel filter(s)?

Volvo XC90 (II) D5 256 2016 - Volvo XC90 Diesel Significant Lack of Power & MPG - A Andrews

Yes. This was shown on the invoice from the Volvo service last year. Thank you for the suggestion. Much appreciated.

Volvo XC90 (II) D5 256 2016 - Volvo XC90 Diesel Significant Lack of Power & MPG - elekie&a/c doctor
Is this a twin turbo engine , and were both replaced?
Volvo XC90 (II) D5 256 2016 - Volvo XC90 Diesel Significant Lack of Power & MPG - A Andrews

Yes, it's twin turbo. It comes as a heavy, chunky unit. Made by Borgwarner. Both were replaced.

Volvo XC90 (II) D5 256 2016 - Volvo XC90 Diesel Significant Lack of Power & MPG - focussed
The wastgate actuator is vacuum powered, controlled by a solenoid valve driven by the ECU.
it looks like this according to the parts info.

www.euspares.co.uk/parts/pierburg/16165223

From my previous experience with this type of system, it's easy to get the pipes on the valve round the wrong way, particularly if various mechanics have been at the car.

When the engine is running at idle one of the two pipes should show a vacuum from the vacuum supply.
Easy to check if the valve is working by disconnecting the pipe to the turbo, applying 12 volts to the electrical connnecter
and checking that it switches the vacuum on/off.

Worth checking.

Edited by focussed on 22/04/2025 at 11:48

Volvo XC90 (II) D5 256 2016 - Volvo XC90 Diesel Significant Lack of Power & MPG - A Andrews

Thank for this. Very kind. I will re-check the pipes, more for my peace of mind than in expectation of finding a fault. These solenoid control valves are a bit more complicated than they used to be; the ECU supplies a varies signal to them so that they can vary the vacuum, rather than it just being present or not. One of the first things I did was to swap the two turbo control valves over to see if one was faulty. There was no difference. Because they are relatively affordable I bought a new one (like your link) just in case both were broken. No difference, of course.

I now have a spare turbo actuator, MAP sensor, MAF sensor, Exhaust pressure pipe and sensor and a whopping great BorgWarner twin turbo unit whose replacement cost me €2100 from Rotterdam excluding the ridiculous delivery charge.

What I don't have is a car that works.

Thank again. I'll re-check the pipes as you advise.

Volvo XC90 (II) D5 256 2016 - Volvo XC90 Diesel Significant Lack of Power & MPG - A Andrews

Vacuum pipe re-check done. Nothing seems amiss.

Volvo XC90 (II) D5 256 2016 - Volvo XC90 Diesel Significant Lack of Power & MPG - A Andrews

Also, I was wrong about the wastegate being open at idle. What seems to happen is a quick open-then-close routine when the car is first started. Thanks to Galilieo and others for correcting me.

Volvo XC90 (II) D5 256 2016 - Volvo XC90 Diesel Significant Lack of Power & MPG - focussed
Give this man and his small company a call/email
He can test and repair just about anything including ECU's
He doesn't detail on his website about Volvo product problems, but he may have heard or know about the problem you have.
He even says you can call him out of hours to discuss your problem.
I have never met this man or have any affiliation with him or his business.

www.remmington.info/index.html
www.remmington.info/contact.html
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