Fiat Panda - Dodgy Servicing - likaleica

My daughter took her 14 year old Fiat Panda for £300 service & MOT at a Halfords workshop. They did the service first, then MOT. It failed on imbalanced brakes, front and rear suspension components, a tyre, faulty lights and and exhaust leak. Should those major safety faults not have been identified in the SERVICE and been reported to my daughter ? Should the MOT have been done BEFORE the service ? I think she's been taken for a ride. What action should she take with Halfords ? Thanks chaps.

Fiat Panda - Dodgy Servicing - paul 1963

Mean no offence but the tyre, lights and exhaust should have been spotted before the service/mot.

Imho she hasn't been taken for a ride, car would have failed either way.

Yes the items identified could have been mentioned before the mot but they still need addressing.

Fiat Panda - Dodgy Servicing - Andrew-T

A 'service' includes scheduled items such as oil, filters, possibly brake fluid or other less frequent items. None of the things you list are 'service' items but are precisely those things the MoT is intended to pick up. If they were part of a 'service' why would you need an MoT ?

You could argue that (say) the suspension components don't need doing until next year (i.e.you may have been taken for a ride). But doing the MoT first would not make much difference IMHO, unless you told them If it fails MoT, don't bother with the service.

Fiat Panda - Dodgy Servicing - daveyjp

MOT should be done first, but if you take it to a store which sells bikes don't expect them to have much sense when it comes to car matters.

If the car is now fixed and running take it as a lesson in the university of life that when running a car nearing the end of its life a good local mechanic can be a godsend.

Fiat Panda - Dodgy Servicing - likaleica

MOT should be done first, but if you take it to a store which sells bikes don't expect them to have much sense when it comes to car matters.

If the car is now fixed and running take it as a lesson in the university of life that when running a car nearing the end of its life a good local mechanic can be a godsend.

Very true - but Halfords are a household name and should provide a decent service.

Fiat Panda - Dodgy Servicing - Andrew-T

<< Halfords are a household name and should provide a decent service. >>

Ha1fords earned their 'household name' (many years ago) selling everything cyclists needed for DiY. As motoring spread, they expanded into that market, later offering simple repairs themselves. I don't think they have ever intended to become a proper garage-type place, and perhaps should not be seen in that light ?

Fiat Panda - Dodgy Servicing - RT

<< Halfords are a household name and should provide a decent service. >>

Ha1fords earned their 'household name' (many years ago) selling everything cyclists needed for DiY. As motoring spread, they expanded into that market, later offering simple repairs themselves. I don't think they have ever intended to become a proper garage-type place, and perhaps should not be seen in that light ?

Halfords have made big investments in "garage" services, buying Nationwide Autocentres in 2010, McConechy’s garages in Scotland and Tyres on the Drive in 2019, Universal Tyres & Garages and National Tyres & Autocare in 2021 and Lodge Tyre Co in 2022 - so it's reasonable to judge them as a big national brand of garage services.

Fiat Panda - Dodgy Servicing - Andrew-T

<< Halfords have made big investments in "garage" services .... so it's reasonable to judge them as a big national brand of garage services. >>

Have all those places been rebadged as Ha1fords ?

Fiat Panda - Dodgy Servicing - craig-pd130

Halfords mechanics (using the term loosely) will be trained to not highlight or correct those faults, because they can make more money by allowing the car to fail the MOT, then correcting them, then putting the car through a second MOT.

It's the same with all the chains - KwikFit, National etc - they exist to make money. They will only do the items specified in their 'servce' package (oil & filter change, washer fluid top-up, etc) and will ignore (indeed, not even LOOK for) anything else.

A trusted independent mechanic would be much more likely to find and fix those faults so that the car passes the MOT as part of an overall service, and will just charge their hourly rate. Ask on local Facebook groups for the details of a trusted indie mechanic, and if you find a good one, stick with them.

Fiat Panda - Dodgy Servicing - elekie&a/c doctor
Definitely mot first , which covers areas a service would not include. However , if the final invoice for all the work done , including the test, was £300 , I think that’s cheap.
Fiat Panda - Dodgy Servicing - likaleica
Definitely mot first , which covers areas a service would not include. However , if the final invoice for all the work done , including the test, was £300 , I think that’s cheap.

Er, NO. The £300 was for just the service. She is having a quote for all the items they failed to spot by another garage....the likely cost will be £££s more

Edited by likaleica on 12/02/2025 at 10:16

Fiat Panda - Dodgy Servicing - Andrew-T

<< The £300 was for just the service. She is having a quote for all the items they failed to spot by another garage....the likely cost will be £££s more. >>

The MoT only adds about £50 to the total, depending where you take the car. So the service was around £250 ? How 'full' was it ?

Fiat Panda - Dodgy Servicing - Brit_in_Germany

I know that it is usual for main dealers to MOT first and then service but getting a 'fail' on the MOT record because of things like a blown number plate bulb or a worn tyre could easily be avoided if the service was carried out first (I know the owner should check these things themselves but some rely on garages for this).

Fiat Panda - Dodgy Servicing - Andrew-T

Halfords mechanics (using the term loosely) will be trained to not highlight or correct those faults, because they can make more money by allowing the car to fail the MOT, then correcting them, then putting the car through a second MOT.

A second MoT (at the same place) should not bring in any more money ! And, to be fair, trusted indies have to make money too. You need to establish the trust by experience or hearsay.

Fiat Panda - Dodgy Servicing - Ian_SW

A £300 "Service" sounds like it should have been a "Full" inspection service, not just an oil change.

At the very least, if done service first, the inspection service should have identied anything which meant the car wasn't roadworthy and the OP informed of whar work needed doing before the MOT was attempted. After all, the whole point in paying someone to service your car is so you know it's safe to use on the road for the parts the average Joe public doesn't have the technical knowledge to check themselves.

As others have said, normal practice for older cars would be to do the MOT first. There's little point spending money replacing the oil, filters etc if the car turns out to have catastrophic corrosion for example.

Even a fast fit chain should be doing that I'd have thought - a possible reason not to would be if the OP had requested a very specific time for the work to be done by which didn't fit with the schedule of the MOT tester.

One way to avoid this in future is to offset the service and MOT by six months. It's less convenient as the car has a trip to the garage twice a year instead of once, but it does mean the car gets checked more often at no extra cost. It can also mean you get a bit more warning of what work will be coming up.

Fiat Panda - Dodgy Servicing - Adampr

Halfords services include a '77 point inspection' so, yes, these should have been picked up and reported as part of that. However with the MOT bundled in, it probably cost about £20 more that just the service. I would guess they thought it made sense to do the inspection and the MOT to come up with a comprehensive list of faults.

If they had done the MOT first, it might have failed on something that the service dealt with and you'd be feeling aggrieved about that instead.

Fiat Panda - Dodgy Servicing - elekie&a/c doctor
I would only use Halfords if I wanted my headlight bulbs fitted upside down.
Fiat Panda - Dodgy Servicing - Nat smith

How true.

Fiat Panda - Dodgy Servicing - Orb>>.

Halfords motoring services are a Fast Fit type.

From Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halfords.

I hadn't previoously noted all the changes.

Edited by Orb>>. on 12/02/2025 at 15:10

Fiat Panda - Dodgy Servicing - Andrew-T

At the very least, if done service first, the inspection service should have identified anything which meant the car wasn't roadworthy ...

But that is the purpose of the MoT - to find anything 'unroadworthy' on the car - as well as lights not conforming to the Highway Code, for example. You are suggesting that after doing the inspection service, many of those checks have to be repeated for the MoT ?

People always say that if a car fails the test for a trivial item easily fixed in 5 minutes, the fix can be done, then the whole test procedure has to be repeated ? When/if that happens, both results will appear on the record, so a simultaneous (date and mileage) Fail and Pass should not lose the car value if the record is read thoroughly.

Fiat Panda - Dodgy Servicing - elekie&a/c doctor
Minor faults that can be rectified within an hour after the test , but before being recorded , would be performed as part of a PRS. ( pass after rectification at station ) .
Fiat Panda - Dodgy Servicing - Big John

My daughter took her 14 year old Fiat Panda for £300 service & MOT at a Halfords workshop. They did the service first, then MOT. It failed on imbalanced brakes, front and rear suspension components, a tyre, faulty lights and and exhaust leak. Should those major safety faults not have been identified in the SERVICE and been reported to my daughter ? Should the MOT have been done BEFORE the service ? I think she's been taken for a ride. What action should she take with Halfords ? Thanks chaps.

Get it to a good independent garage that also does MOT's. Many fast fit chains somehow always manage to fail cars on their bread and butter items such as tyres, exhaust, brakes and shock absorbers.

Fiat Panda - Dodgy Servicing - Ethan Edwards

If you want your old car serviced. Find out where the local taxi drivers get their cars serviced. There's a small garage in Colchester my colleagues rave about. Found by asking a local cabbie.

Fiat Panda - Dodgy Servicing - FoxyJukebox
Changing the oil and filter, topping up this and that and giving a glance at the brakes is all that’s generally done at a short service. Have you got a list of items ( tick box) that Halfords said were needing to be checked for your £300?