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2017 Audi A3 2.0L TFSI Sportback Sport S-Tronic - Difficulties selling a car privately on Autotrader - Michael Young

I recently advertised my car for sale on Autotrader. It is a 67 plate with 54000 miles and in excellent condition. Having included 48 photos and a wordy description of the love and care bestowed on my car I expected it to sell reasonably quickly being a popular model and with an asking price of £12500 on a par with other models on the site. After posting the ad I noticed that whilst almost all similar ads were labelled as “Great Price”, “Good Price, “Fair Price”, mine did not. The ad ran its full term with one enquiry and no offers. All the cars ‘recommended’ by Autotrader were sold. I took this up with Autotrader who told me that only trade sales get price approval. This discriminates against private sellers, potentially forcing them into the arms of the car buying sites at prices much below what the dealers will sell the cars for. I took the registration number from one of the dealer ads and asked Autotrader to value it. They valued it at £2000 less than it was being sold for on their site; suggesting that Autotrader are discriminating against private sellers. Does anyone else have a similar experience?

2017 Audi A3 2.0L TFSI Sportback Sport S-Tronic - Difficulties selling a car privately on Autotrader - Brit_in_Germany

Buy from a trade seller gives you legal rights which are priced into the offers for sale. To compete, your price has to be lower. Quite simple really.

2017 Audi A3 2.0L TFSI Sportback Sport S-Tronic - Difficulties selling a car privately on Autotrader - Chris M

"an asking price of £12500 on a par with other models on the site."

Is that the problem? You can't expect a private sale to match a dealer. You are not offering any of the protection available to the buyer that a dealer has to offer.

2017 Audi A3 2.0L TFSI Sportback Sport S-Tronic - Difficulties selling a car privately on Autotrader - badbusdriver

You seem to be ignoring the fact that most people won't want to buy privately. If the car being sold is at a lower price point*, there is certainly an argument in favour of buying private, but yours isn't.

There is also the fact that if buying from a dealer, there is going to be a warranty of some kind included. Now whether said warranty actually does offer peace of mind is a separate question, but it definitely does in the eyes of most punters.

The only way your car is going to appeal the majority of potential buyers is by offering a substantial saving next the typical dealer price for a car like yours.

*By which I mean up to around £5k, but really the cheaper the car the more compelling the argument for buying private becomes. For the simple reason that the cheaper the car is, the bigger the percentage of built in profit the dealer is taking.

Edited by badbusdriver on 24/10/2024 at 19:37

2017 Audi A3 2.0L TFSI Sportback Sport S-Tronic - Difficulties selling a car privately on Autotrader - madf

I am looking for a used car on Autotrader./CarGurus.

I IGNORE Private buyers.

Why:

Poor adverts often omitting KEY data: eg MOT renewal dates.

In most cases, I need to organise my own insurance for a test drive

Grossly inflated views of what their car is worth And refusal to negotiate.

Terrible photos at times

Rigid attitude to pricing.. And inflexible viewing times.

If - and only if - it is keenly priced and well presented will I bother.

About 95% of private ads fail to meet my criteria as above. SO : waste of time

Oh .. and no Sale of Goods protection.. There are some lying chancers around...

Edited by madf on 24/10/2024 at 21:45

2017 Audi A3 2.0L TFSI Sportback Sport S-Tronic - Difficulties selling a car privately on Autotrader - bathtub tom

I sold a car recently on Autotrader. Had a couple of (obvious) dealers turn up to view it, one of which stated: "you'll definitely get the money, but their's no profit for me". Sold it for what I was asking!

You've got to be realistic and prepare the car properly. I'd given it a (damn) good clean and a light polish. Cleaned the engine bay and not used tyre conditioners or shiny stuff, so it looked like a good clean example.

2017 Audi A3 2.0L TFSI Sportback Sport S-Tronic - Difficulties selling a car privately on Autotrader - Adampr

I just assume all private sales on Auto trader are dealers trying to avoid warranties etc.

2017 Audi A3 2.0L TFSI Sportback Sport S-Tronic - Difficulties selling a car privately on Autotrader - SLO76

This the car in question? www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202410215416824 If so, it looks fresh enough, plenty of pics and you mention both length of ownership and service history. But on the negatives, you’ve taken the pics in a supermarket car park instead of at your own home which always looks a bit dodgy and it’s too expensive. There are several similar cars with dealers including legal protection and a warranty for the same money or less. Here’s one example, yes I know it’s a manual but that doesn’t add value used, if anything Audis automated manual box will deter buyers due to its poor reputation for longevity and huge cost to repair. www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202410084968471 I’ve always found it hard to sell more expensive metal from the door, you’ll also find that anyone willing to take the gamble on it will want a big saving over retail price so no you won’t get the same as a dealer for it sadly. It needs to be about £1,500-£2k less than a dealer to be worth it to the type of bargain hunter you’ll encounter. So to be blunt and to explain why you haven’t sold it so far, you’ve overpriced it and taken the pics in a supermarket car park which makes you look like a fly trader or a traveller. Take the pics at home and drop the price by £1,500 and see where you go.

Edit: Not sure why deleted comes up as a naughty word on the forum, but I thought I’d just be clear incase you thought I was being mean.

[It was entered into the word blocker years ago following complaints. It's considered an offensive term. Traveller is generally considered acceptable. Mod]

Edited by Xileno on 25/10/2024 at 07:37

2017 Audi A3 2.0L TFSI Sportback Sport S-Tronic - Difficulties selling a car privately on Autotrader - SLO76
“ [It was entered into the word blocker years ago following complaints. It's considered an offensive term. Traveller is generally considered acceptable. Mod]”

Fair enough. Just don’t buy a car from any of them, everything we were offered (they loved Shoguns and Transits) turned out to be dishonest in some form.
2017 Audi A3 2.0L TFSI Sportback Sport S-Tronic - Difficulties selling a car privately on Autotrader - Catfood

Strange that I’ve sold Citroen recently through Autotrader successfully. The buyer called me within 3 days and bought my car straight away.

Price has to be realistically set. I set my price 20% higher than Motorway’s valuation price, sure the buyer wants to negotiate the price, so take 10% off. The car was sold, just 10% more than Motorway’s valuation price.

2017 Audi A3 2.0L TFSI Sportback Sport S-Tronic - Difficulties selling a car privately on Autotrader - Andrew-T

Price has to be realistically set. I set my price 20% higher than Motorway’s valuation price, sure the buyer wants to negotiate the price, so take 10% off. The car was sold, just 10% more than Motorway’s valuation price.

I wonder if SLO could comment on regional variations in asking price. Several years ago my daughter advertised a Golf Plus in the Manchester area and got one responder, who bought it. They came from near Kings Lynn (~100 miles away?) because prices there were higher.

So I think that can be a significant factor, not to be ignored.

2017 Audi A3 2.0L TFSI Sportback Sport S-Tronic - Difficulties selling a car privately on Autotrader - SLO76

Price has to be realistically set. I set my price 20% higher than Motorway’s valuation price, sure the buyer wants to negotiate the price, so take 10% off. The car was sold, just 10% more than Motorway’s valuation price.

I wonder if SLO could comment on regional variations in asking price. Several years ago my daughter advertised a Golf Plus in the Manchester area and got one responder, who bought it. They came from near Kings Lynn (~100 miles away?) because prices there were higher.

So I think that can be a significant factor, not to be ignored.

There’s quite a variation in prices across the country. I often see transporters full of used stock heading south on the M6 and other over to Northern Ireland where prices are higher than Glasgow. But don’t expect that trip to be worthwhile as a private buyer as cars rust more rapidly up here than they do down south and the trade know this.
2017 Audi A3 2.0L TFSI Sportback Sport S-Tronic - Difficulties selling a car privately on Autotrader - 72 dudes

It looks like Motorway will offer you £11300, so I'd bite their hand off.

Without doubt it's a nice well cared for car with a sensible mileage but as others have said, it's too close to a dealer price.

Knowing buyers' obsession with the S Line variant, I can see the Sport model putting some buyers off too.

The only other alternative I can think of is to approach a dealer with a good reputation for selling cars of this age and value with a view to selling on your behalf. They will want a commission of around £1500 but they pay for the warranty, any minor scuffs plus advertising.

They then sell it at your estimate of £13500 netting you £12k

I've done this twice successfully, most recently in August. I had an 18 year old Mercedes SLK 350 with 53k miles, showroom condition, garaged, owned 10 years, history and MOT files etc. Retail prices were £5000 to £6000, but I was getting offered about £2650 as a trade in, and around £3300 from Motorway and WBAC.

I absolutely couldn't be bothered with people coming round wanting to drive it without insurance, haggling etc so went down this route.

Within 24 hours of the car going live on the dealer's website they'd had 3 enquiries and sold it for £6000, giving me £4500 in my bank the same day.

2017 Audi A3 2.0L TFSI Sportback Sport S-Tronic - Difficulties selling a car privately on Autotrader - badbusdriver

I wonder if SLO could comment on regional variations in asking price. Several years ago my daughter advertised a Golf Plus in the Manchester area and got one responder, who bought it. They came from near Kings Lynn (~100 miles away?) because prices there were higher.

While I'm not disagreeing that regional variances (re prices) is a thing, in this particular case I think it may have been more down to the car itself. The Golf Plus was never a popular car (most would rather a Golf, or if they needed a bit more space and/or a higher driving position, a Touran) so there wouldn't be a lot of people looking for one. And anyone who was specifically after a Golf Plus may well have to travel a bit further than they'd like, simply because there wasn't many to choose from.

2017 Audi A3 2.0L TFSI Sportback Sport S-Tronic - Difficulties selling a car privately on Autotrader - Xileno

My brother had a work mate who always bought his cars in the North. This was back in the 80s. He liked Lancia Betas and somehow managed to get them back South again before they rusted away...

2017 Audi A3 2.0L TFSI Sportback Sport S-Tronic - Difficulties selling a car privately on Autotrader - Oli rag

My brother had a work mate who always bought his cars in the North. This was back in the 80s. He liked Lancia Betas and somehow managed to get them back South again before they rusted away...

Must have been a dry day for the journey home!

2017 Audi A3 2.0L TFSI Sportback Sport S-Tronic - Difficulties selling a car privately on Autotrader - 72 dudes

I wonder if SLO could comment on regional variations in asking price. Several years ago my daughter advertised a Golf Plus in the Manchester area and got one responder, who bought it. They came from near Kings Lynn (~100 miles away?) because prices there were higher.

While I'm not disagreeing that regional variances (re prices) is a thing, in this particular case I think it may have been more down to the car itself. The Golf Plus was never a popular car (most would rather a Golf, or if they needed a bit more space and/or a higher driving position, a Touran) so there wouldn't be a lot of people looking for one. And anyone who was specifically after a Golf Plus may well have to travel a bit further than they'd like, simply because there wasn't many to choose from.

True, but it's an Audi A3 with a nice engine we're talking about here BBD : )

2017 Audi A3 2.0L TFSI Sportback Sport S-Tronic - Difficulties selling a car privately on Autotrader - badbusdriver

I wonder if SLO could comment on regional variations in asking price. Several years ago my daughter advertised a Golf Plus in the Manchester area and got one responder, who bought it. They came from near Kings Lynn (~100 miles away?) because prices there were higher.

While I'm not disagreeing that regional variances (re prices) is a thing, in this particular case I think it may have been more down to the car itself. The Golf Plus was never a popular car (most would rather a Golf, or if they needed a bit more space and/or a higher driving position, a Touran) so there wouldn't be a lot of people looking for one. And anyone who was specifically after a Golf Plus may well have to travel a bit further than they'd like, simply because there wasn't many to choose from.

True, but it's an Audi A3 with a nice engine we're talking about here BBD : )

Sorry, you've lost me?. My post was giving an alternative (to geographical) reason why Andrew T's daughter only got one response from some distance away, which has nothing to do with the OP's car.

The reason the OP's car hasn't sold is because he asking the same price a dealer would, while offering none of the legal protection and warranty.

2017 Audi A3 2.0L TFSI Sportback Sport S-Tronic - Difficulties selling a car privately on Autotrader - 72 dudes

Price has to be realistically set. I set my price 20% higher than Motorway’s valuation price, sure the buyer wants to negotiate the price, so take 10% off. The car was sold, just 10% more than Motorway’s valuation price.

I wonder if SLO could comment on regional variations in asking price. Several years ago my daughter advertised a Golf Plus in the Manchester area and got one responder, who bought it. They came from near Kings Lynn (~100 miles away?) because prices there were higher.

So I think that can be a significant factor, not to be ignored.

I think it is indeed a significant factor.

Cars here in East Anglia seem to be amongst the most expensive in the country and Kings Lynn is just about nudging into East Anglia.

Anybody wanting a laugh can have a look at www.hawkescarcentre.co.uk

Having said that they do seem to find "nice" cars and they always sell through.

2017 Audi A3 2.0L TFSI Sportback Sport S-Tronic - Difficulties selling a car privately on Autotrader - mickyh7

Cars, Houses, Bikes, Jewelry etc.

Only ever don't sell, if the price is too high.

All over the World, whatever your trying to move, just reduce the price and it will sell.

A private car price needs to be between dealers retail and part exchange.

£12k car, part ex price will be £5-£6k price at £8-£9k then be prepared to reduce.

Remember, on an expensive car, it will be depreciating on a weekly basis!

And the more the money, the customer will want to use a dealer as the law is then on their side, if there are problems.

2017 Audi A3 2.0L TFSI Sportback Sport S-Tronic - Difficulties selling a car privately on Autotrader - bananastand

buying a car from a dealer gets you a whole world of legal protection - see my experience on my thread. Buying privately then you're on your own.

Whenever I've called a seller offering a private sale 90% of them say they are selling it for their dad, maiden aunt, their mate, or give some other reason why their name isn't on the V5 and yes they can bring the car round to me, no problem. Not today dealer!