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HGV over 3.5 tonnes and busses/coaches - Tyres age on certain commercial vhicles - JonestHon

Halfords is advertising on their site that 'Worn tyres wreck lives' pointing to records of Dangerous Driving' convictions. I am not sure if this record of around 5000 convictions in the DD category is down to worn tyres or it is just DD in general.

Anyway..

Following an accident in 2017 near where I live where an ancient tyre caused a fatal accident with multiple casualties, it was found in the inquest that there was no legal limits back then to how old a tyre can be and justice (www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-47403571) was made to look a bit like an a***. The legislation #mce_temp_url#was somewhat modified in 2020 to limit the age of tyres on certain commercial vehicles but only covering the front axle and only up to 10 years. But why this half-way house?!

Surely all vehicles should have a limit on tyre age and surely 10 years for commercial vehicles that do naturally work harder is a bit odd, are commercial tyres age better than a standard car tyres? or are they mandated some legal servicing outside of the MOT legislation I am not aware of?

Reminds me looking at a Mazda 2 we parked next to few weeks ago, the 2013 Avon tyres sidewalls on the the front axles were so badly perished it made me take a look a second time, and yes the thread looks like at least 4mm on these!

Edited by JonestHon on 01/09/2024 at 11:23

HGV over 3.5 tonnes and busses/coaches - Tyres age on certain commercial vhicles - edlithgow

The "common sense" assumptions implied above are poorly evidenced and controversial, which tends to indicate a conservative approach to more stringent legislative limits on tyre age, especially when factoring in the vested interest that the tyre industry has in avoiding loss of value on ageing inventory.

Your Mazda example would fail an MOT IF the belting was visible in the cracks, or IF the cracks were above defined dimensions that I cant remember offhand and dont know how to measure. This would be irrespective of how old its tyres were.

HGV over 3.5 tonnes and busses/coaches - Tyres age on certain commercial vhicles - edlithgow

I had a look at the report of the single incident you link to. The tyre in that incident was over 18 years old, so its failure doesn't provide any support for your implication that 10 years is too old on a commercial vehicle.

Its unclear what the evidence was that age caused the failure, and it may have just been assumed, because the tyre was so old.

It is, however, stated that the failure could not have been anticipated (apart, presumably, from an age check of the tyre if that is accepted as the main cause of the failure). This is inconsistent with another (linked) report, here:-

M5 crash van had 18-year-old tyres, inquest hears - BBC News

This mentions "cuts to the tread area, not caused in the collision, as well as micro-cracks.", and that the tyre had been the subject of an MOT advisory, though its unclear if these defects were its content

Perhaps more significantly, its also stated that the tyre pressure hadn't been checked for a year, and its not clear how or if this is excluded as a factor in the failure, since significant underinflation could have damaged the tyre in its past even if it was correctly inflated at the time of the accident.

This also illustrates a difficulty in attributing failures to simple tyre age even with large scale historical failure statistics, since (prior to TPMS being generally deployed anyway) an older tyre has been potentially exposed to abuse such as chronic underinflation for longer, and there is survey evidence that such abuse has been commonplace..

This COULD be addressed by large scale comparative real world testing of unused new and old tyres, but thats expensive, and involves some potential ethical/PR issues if your old tyre tester had a crash, so I wouldn't bet much money on that having been done

Edited by edlithgow on 01/09/2024 at 15:46