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Hyundai 1.6 T-GDI - engine query - Rudlin

Hello,

Looking at second hand SUV market, it seems my budget could stretch go secure a base trim model Hyundai Tuscon 1.6 T-GDi.

My plan is to keep that car for 10 years, doing around 10k miles per year. Tuscon seems to be an ideal small family SUV, but what caught my eye was that engine lifespan is designed around 125-150k miles (Hyundai KIA 1.6L Engine (Gamma MPI/GDI/T-GDI) Specs, Problems, Reliability, oil - In-Depth Review (motorreviewer.com))

That's a bit concerning if I am to purchase second-hand car with 40-50 thousand miles on it's odometer.

Ideally, i'd like the car to last at least 200k, miles - do you think Hyundai is up the task? Or am I better of looking for Mazda cx-5 2.0L naturally aspirated engines.

Thanks

Hyundai 1.6 T-GDI - engine query - Xileno

The general view of the forum is the simpler the technology the more likely it is to be less troublesome. In your position I would be looking at which car is likely to be better supported by an independent garage you have locally and also which car might be better for structural rust prevention.

Hyundai 1.6 T-GDI - engine query - Adampr

Personally, I'd say you're better off looking at the Mazda. The Hyundai GDI is pretty good, but does have a bit of a reputation (mostly amongst snobs who want to do Hyundai down) for problems at high mileage.

Standing advice if you want reliability is to buy a Toyota, RAV4 in this case. A Honda CRV would be worth a look too. If you don't mind smaller and a little more basic, the Suzuki Vitara is well-proven.

Hyundai 1.6 T-GDI - engine query - John F

..... but what caught my eye was that engine lifespan is designed around 125-150k miles (Hyundai KIA 1.6L Engine (Gamma MPI/GDI/T-GDI) Specs, Problems, Reliability, oil - In-Depth Review (motorreviewer.com)) .....

.... in general, the engine does not deliver serious problems with provided proper maintenance and use of good fuel/lubricants. The engine life is slightly over 125-150k miles (200,000-250,000 km).

That sudden mortal assertion puzzled me too. They do not mention the common causes of death. Normally an engine 'dies' if something in it breaks costing more than it's worth to repair (usually because it has been starved of oil or water), or it simply wears out needing its bearings and/or pistons replaced - which should not happen before 200,000 miles in a modern mundane engine used sympathetically with oil changes every 10k miles.

Hyundai 1.6 T-GDI - engine query - SLO76
Underbody rust is almost always the killer or Hyundai’s and Kia’s long before the engines give up. If you live in the south away from the coast and pick up a Hyundai that’s not lived in a wet environment such as Scotland then there’s no reason why it wouldn’t last.

The Mazda is the same, the suspension components are all steel with a very thin layer of black paint and thus they rust badly underneath in wet climates. Mechanically the 2.0 Skyactiv petrol is bulletproof.

Get a good rust free example of either with a full service history then pay £300-£400 to have a professional firm to underseal it for you then look after it and you’ll easily get your 10yrs from it.
Hyundai 1.6 T-GDI - engine query - John F
Underbody rust is almost always the killer or Hyundai’s and Kia’s long before the engines give up. ........ The Mazda is the same, the suspension components are all steel with a very thin layer of black paint and thus they rust badly underneath in wet climates..... Get a good rust free example of either with a full service history then pay £300-£400 to have a professional firm to underseal it for you then look after it and you’ll easily get your 10yrs from it.

10 yrs is a surely a bare minimum. My Ziebarted from new 1980 TR7 has outlasted myriads of the Mazda MX5 which first appeared here in 1990 (a salutory example of what our floundering incompetent British mass market sports car makers should have achieved during the 1980s and beyond). It seems the Asians still don't take corrosion prevention seriously. Mrs F's Peugeot 2008 has not only a well painted undercarriage but also clip-on plastic protectors to protect important underframe areas from erosion. I have just done a wheels-off clean and preventive maintenance in preparation for its MoT at 5yrs old in Oct (I shall do this every 5 yrs). There is of course no rust at all so early in its life, apart from the expected corrosion of the brake discs, easily removed with a hammer and old screwdriver.

Hyundai 1.6 T-GDI - engine query - gordonbennet

As above re rust, rust is not a thing of the past despite what some believe so take some preventative measures.

Most normal cars (preferably avoiding poor designs such as wet cam or oil pump drive belts) will last a long time if driven and serviced sensibly, good servicing is not just changing the oil once a year, change the coolant every few years too, change the gearbox and any other transmission fluids periodically ignoring any sealed for life stickers (not guaranteed for life you notice) that might be seen, change the spark plugs before one corrodes in so tight the plug snaps off and have the brakes serviced by someone competent.

If you did just these things (most if not all are DIY'able) and nothing else you'll still be driving the same car in 20 years time if you want to, seriously cheap motoring, though some engine work is likely on some designs due to carbon building up...ie egr related issues on some Diesels and intake and/or valve issues on some direct injection petrols, but given these usually one off expenses overall cost still cheaper than depreciation on new cars.