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Mazda 2 - Car supermarket - mcb100
Looking at used cars today, one of which was at one of the smaller supermarkets.
As of yesterday, ‘Yes, the car will be on site tomorrow for you to view’.
Today, when I arrive ‘It’s away at our prep centre, it’ll be back mid-afternoon’.
No problem, thinks I, I’ll go look at another one and come back later.
I get back late afternoon, and no sign of it. So I start poking around their compound and there it is - absolutely filthy and clearly not been touched. Had a look around it anyway to see that the aerial is missing from the roof, leaving a now uncovered 2cm square hole. In the pouring rain.
I left without talking to anyone.
They do make it hard work, don’t they?
Mazda 2 - Car supermarket - bathtub tom

I think they don't sell cars, they sell car finance, with a car thrown in.

Mazda 2 - Car supermarket - FoxyJukebox
So—eventually-all the prep centre probably did was wash and valet? I bet there was no proper vehicle check, MOT, service and necessary essential repairs.
Mazda 2 - Car supermarket - paul 1963

Obviously not that keen on selling you a car, love to know how the aerial went missing.

Mazda 2 - Car supermarket - Steveieb

My partners Captur had a faulty aerial base similar to the roof mounted one you describe. Water ingress and common failure . Six weeks wait for a replacement under warranty !

Mazda 2 - Car supermarket - Falkirk Bairn

New/2nd hand car sellers

I think careful car inspections, fixing bits & pieces, a proper service, a road test + proper valet are a thing of the past.

Today - a cursory glance, power wash and a quick hoover.

Mazda 2 - Car supermarket - paul 1963

New/2nd hand car sellers

I think careful car inspections, fixing bits & pieces, a proper service, a road test + proper valet are a thing of the past.

Today - a cursory glance, power wash and a quick hoover.

Think you may well be right, recently in order to kill a bit of time I walked round a large Vauxhall dealerships used car section, the standard of there stock was dreadful, those that were remotely clean had obviously been treated to a strong solution of traffic film remover, basically acid, any bright work and diamond cut alloys was stained and burnt, actually made me giggle they were that bad.

Mazda 2 - Car supermarket - Andrew-T

<< a cursory glance, power wash and a quick hoover. >>

Just what you want with a 2-inch hole in the roof !

Mazda 2 - Car supermarket - Bromptonaut

Obviously not that keen on selling you a car, love to know how the aerial went missing.

Our first Berlingo, 2005 model, had the aerial at the front centre above the windscreen. I think it was telescopic but it was certainly hinged at the base so the rake angle was adjustable.

Getting ready for a camping holiday I needed to increase the rake angle so as to accommodate a roof box. Hinge was stiff and whole unit came away in my hand. Sealed hole in roof with gaffer tape and continued as planned. No issues other than no radio.

Replacement was surprisingly cheap.

Mazda 2 - Car supermarket - Engineer Andy

Sadly it's not just this type of outlet doing this sort of thing - I've come across many main dealerships across various makes in my area who aren't properly preparing second hand cars, if at all - though more on the inside than the outside.

Some of them look like they've not been cleaned or vacuumed since coming in. Many were amazingly photographed that way and those photos included on their website car details - which often aren't complete / accurate.

As regards promises of 'getting to' doing something and not doing it, sadly this is very much a feature of the poor customer service response of modern business (in addition to other workplaces).

I saw this beginning years before the current problems - with workers expected to do more for less but without any new / better tools or methods to do the work, so was regularly asked to either make promises you couldn't keep, but having zero backup from management when you got a rollocking from clients. The alternative was working lots of unpaid overtime, where you got little benefit.

Mazda 2 - Car supermarket - Andrew-T

Sadly it's not just this type of outlet doing this sort of thing - I've come across many main dealerships across various makes in my area who aren't properly preparing second hand cars, if at all - though more on the inside than the outside.

Maybe the reason is that they can sell them without bothering to do that ?

Mazda 2 - Car supermarket - Engineer Andy

Sadly it's not just this type of outlet doing this sort of thing - I've come across many main dealerships across various makes in my area who aren't properly preparing second hand cars, if at all - though more on the inside than the outside.

Maybe the reason is that they can sell them without bothering to do that ?

Sometimes, perhaps (there are obviously mugs out there who will pay silly prices for tat), but many of the cars that were in a grubby state on this inside didn't sell and presumably had to be auctioned off instead, possibly at a loss.

Presumably margins aren't so small that a low-level detailing of the interior (max. £75, probably less) would not be justified, or perhaps where potential buyers negotiate the price down more than the cost of that, meaning the selling dealer would not make as much profit?

Would you want to buy a car where it appeared that the interior hadn't been cared for?

In my experience, the cars that do sell - and quickly - are those that look in good order throughout - despite their age, as well as the usual FSH (preferably main dealer) and very good / unblemished MOT records.

Mazda 2 - Car supermarket - mcb100
‘ So—eventually-all the prep centre probably did was wash and valet? I bet there was no proper vehicle check, MOT, service and necessary essential repairs.’

No, it was filthy. Didn’t look like it had moved in weeks.
Mazda 2 - Car supermarket - mcb100
My major grumble wasn’t the state of the car - point me in the direction of the jet wash and I’ll do it myself to get a better look at the paintwork.
No, it was being told initially that the car would be ready to view, and then being told that it was away being cleaned when it was sitting untouched at the back of the yard.
Just be honest with me.
Mazda 2 - Car supermarket - galileo
My major grumble wasn’t the state of the car - point me in the direction of the jet wash and I’ll do it myself to get a better look at the paintwork. No, it was being told initially that the car would be ready to view, and then being told that it was away being cleaned when it was sitting untouched at the back of the yard. Just be honest with me.

Proof of the common belief that "all car salesmen tell lies".

Mazda 2 - Car supermarket - mcb100
‘ Proof of the common belief that "all car salesmen tell lies".’

Now I’m going to be contrary and disagree with the ‘common belief’.
My working life is pretty much full time working with new car sales team, and I meet a lot of good people.
Can they be disorganised, lazy and lacking in training? Yes, of course they can.
Are they under massive pressure to hit very high customer service scores? Absolutely. A dealership’s profit is hugely dependent on CSI scores.
And when you factor in they’re tied to strict Financial Conduct Authority regs when dealing with financial products and the omnipresent possibility of a mystery shop, I’ll respectfully say that they’re not all liars.
They may just tell you what you don’t want to hear.
Mazda 2 - Car supermarket - skidpan
‘ Proof of the common belief that "all car salesmen tell lies".’ Now I’m going to be contrary and disagree with the ‘common belief’. My working life is pretty much full time working with new car sales team, and I meet a lot of good people. Can they be disorganised, lazy and lacking in training? Yes, of course they can. Are they under massive pressure to hit very high customer service scores? Absolutely. A dealership’s profit is hugely dependent on CSI scores. And when you factor in they’re tied to strict Financial Conduct Authority regs when dealing with financial products and the omnipresent possibility of a mystery shop, I’ll respectfully say that they’re not all liars. They may just tell you what you don’t want to hear.

When we ordered the Yaris last September I got the salesman to confirm everything we had agreed in writing (e-mail) before signing any order, a couple of examples:

Delivery date, we wanted it in March, they said December but when we started to walk (saying we would be back in January) the Dealer Principal (who was standing close by) quickly intervened and said that would be fine, they did it all the time

Finance Deal, the existing deal ended in December and we wanted to be sure we would get the contribution and rate in March. They confirmed that the existing deal would be honoured when we took delivery but they also added that should a better deal be available in March we could opt for that.

Order signed and waited.

Late February salesman phoned and said car ready for collection, just needed to agree date and time, looked like they had listened.

I then said we still needed to sort the finance and that we would like the current (improved) deal. Told us could not have it because we had delayed delivery, I told him that he knew that March was when the car was to be delivered and he had confirmed everything in an e-mail but he was insistent it was our fault and that was it. I asked him to confirm it with his manager who rang and said the salesman was correct. I asked it to be escalated to the Dealer Principal who eventually rang back (about an hour before the time I had said I would be cancelling the deal) and he confirmed all would be fine, we could have the deal agreed and that they did it all the time.

I then said all we needed was to confirm the PX valuation the salesman had provided but the Dealer Principal said there was nothing on the system. He explained how it was done and it was clear all the salesman had done was make up a figure. So since the car was not a Toyota it had to be put to other group dealers who sold Skoda for prices and he asked many questions about the car basically saying at the end that since no 6 year old car was that good he would deduct money for any defects present) and this took another few days (the salesman took about 2 minutes), but at least it was better than the salesmans figure. When we took the car in he found no defects but did not have the decency to tell me I had been honest.

Took about 3 weeks from the time the salesman rang to collection, good job we were not in a hurry.

So while the salesman was a liar at least the Dealer Principal rescued the deal. Wonder if the salesman is still there.

Edited by skidpan on 17/08/2024 at 10:57

Mazda 2 - Car supermarket - veloceman
I guess most vehicles are purchased via a Stocking loan. If the car isn’t sold in 3 mths when payment is due it gets traded on or auctioned to settle.
They won’t want to outlay for paint, service wheels etc.
However I wouldn’t buy a car in such condition.