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Cars with no keeper - galileo

There have been many instances on the 'Traffic Cops' documentaries where cars are being chased or reported to have been involved n crime, where it is said "there is no registered keeper" for the vehicle.

Now unless these vehicles have been stolen from the factory or a dealer's compound, (which seem unlikely as they are never brand new), they must tat some point been registered to some person or company.

When that keeper disposed of it, they should have notified DVLA to whom they passed it, and so on for following owners. Does no one ever check the record of these transactions and take action against those who supply criminals with 'pool' keeperless transport by failing to give details?

Cars with no keeper - Chris M

Maybe when the keeper sells the car for cash to Mr Smith of 12 Acacia Avenue and sends the completed section of the V5C off to DVLA, he doesn't know (or care), it's a false name and address. Seller has done what he's supposed to do and there's no requirement for proof of identity of the buyer.

Cars with no keeper - bathtub tom

Since buying this house I've had countless letters addressed to the previous (deceased) owner and even bailiffs, It seemd the car they owned has gone to a new keeper, who hasn't bothered to inform DVLA. Fortunately, one letter showed the VRN in the envelope window and I was able to inform DVLA of the situation. They removed this address from that VRN and letters have since diminished.

I was able to find the vehicle is taxed, insured and MOT'd from the VRN, so I suspect the user is fully aware and happily avoiding TFL, DART and parking penalties.

Cars with no keeper - Terry W

It is estimated there are 1m uninsured cars in the UK - about 1 in 30.

Each year about 100k are prosecuted for no insurance - about 1 in 10 of those who don't have insurance. A number of these almost certainly arise where drivers are stopped for other offences - speeding, accidents etc.

That so many abuse the law arises due to:

(a( the improbability of prosecution,

(b) to avoid the high cost of compliance,

(c) if caught the low average fine of ~£300 is less than the cost of insurance,

(d) without an address parking and speeding fines are easily avoided

There are clearly some in society who are unconcerned about being caught - and given prison overcrowding almost zero chance of a custodial sentence (which may deter)

Were the police motivated they could set up APNR cameras and pullover any without insurance. Similarly cars with no keeper. Cars to be confiscated to cover the much higher fines that should be applied.

Edited by Terry W on 13/07/2024 at 23:30

Cars with no keeper - Orb>>

We regularly have cars parked in our little close on the edge of town. No tax or MOT and if I check often no insurance.

Council not bothered ( Parking partnership ).

Not all old either.

Cars with no keeper - bathtub tom

No tax is DVLA, it's easy to inform them. Sounds like they could have a field day. A couple of cars down the road from me had stickers on their windscreens and were then towed away.

No insurance is a police matter - if they can be bothered.

No MOT doesn't seem to bother anyone. The penalty's just a fine.

Edited by bathtub tom on 14/07/2024 at 09:14

Cars with no keeper - Andrew-T

No MOT doesn't seem to bother anyone. The penalty's just a fine.

The previous owner of my elderly 205 overlooked its 2022 MoT. It seems the car lived in a secluded 'close' where a posh neighbour was offended by the sight of this idle vehicle and began a programme of hassle, which eventually led to me buying the car :-)