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Electric handbrakes - Andrew-T

There was some discussion on these about 10 years ago (e.g.thread 73482). I assume they are now pretty standard items, and may be integrated with accident prevention systems on some cars. But considered in isolation, and compared purely with the conventional cable handbrake often operating on rear drum brakes, can the driver control the force with which the brake is applied, or does the ECU decide ?

Electric handbrakes - Adampr

In my experience (multiple cars), it's just a button that you flick and the ECU (presumably) sets it.

Electric handbrakes - elekie&a/c doctor
That’s about it . No human intervention apart from the switch operation. Epb allows a few trick functions like hill start and the epb will operate in case there’s any hydraulic failure from the main braking system.
Electric handbrakes - John F

....can the driver control the force with which the brake is applied, or does the ECU decide?

Nope - not on mine (a 2005 Audi A8). It's either on or off. You don't even have to switch it off when moving off as it disengages automatically.

For fear of wearing it out I hardly ever used it, perhaps once a month or so to keep it moving. However, this was clearly a bad idea because when needing new rear pads last year at 76,000 miles, the caliper was found to be so seized the indy couldn't insert a new pad......£500 to sort! (including new pads) Still, can't complain; biggest bill so far in ten yrs ownership.

Electric handbrakes - gordonbennet

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For fear of wearing it out I hardly ever used it, perhaps once a month or so to keep it moving. However, this was clearly a bad idea because when needing new rear pads last year at 76,000 miles, the caliper was found to be so seized the indy couldn't insert a new pad......£500 to sort! (including new pads) Still, can't complain; biggest bill so far in ten yrs ownership.

Was that an EPB failure (lack of use) or the bog standard caliper seizing through lack of good maintenance :-))) which is probably nowt to do with the caliper operation itself.

Only joshing you John, couple of years ago despite my almost religious brake maintenance regime had to renew the front calipers on the Landcruiser, only lasted 17 salt fetish winters, i'm tempted to send a snotty complaint to Japan :-)

Electric handbrakes - Miniman777

Had my first on a 69 plate Qashqai, and then later on an X3 (G01), and I've had no problem with them.

Plus points are they release when you pull off, the 'Auto Hold' option and that the EPB applies when you switch off, so no rolling away. Never had any maintenance problems either.

Just wish the wife's F55 Cooper S had an EPB, rather than the conventional handbrake, which seems rather odd.

Electric handbrakes - Deryck

My 2010 Insignia it was possible to add a little extra clamp by operating the button a second time

There is an accelerometer in the ECU that will detect movement and clamp harder if required

Electric handbrakes - Doc

How do electric handbrakes comply with the C&U regs?

The parking brake shall be so designed and constructed that—

......in the case of a motor vehicle, its means of operation (whether multi-pull or not) is independent of the means of operation of any braking system required by regulation 18 to have a total braking efficiency of not less than 50%; and

........ its braking force, when the vehicle is not being driven or is left unattended ...... can at all times be maintained in operation by direct mechanical action without the intervention of any hydraulic, electric or pneumatic device and, when so maintained, can hold the vehicle stationary on a gradient of at least 16% without the assistance of stored energy.

Electric handbrakes - mcb100
I’ve never taken one apart, but I’d assume that the mechanism for holding the car is purely mechanical with no electrical input.
It’s only the application of the parking brake which is electrical, replacing pulling on a lever. It doesn’t need an electrical feed to hold the car still, just to apply and release.

EPB’s do make handbrake turns a touch more difficult…
Electric handbrakes - Andrew-T
I’ve never taken one apart, but I’d assume that the mechanism for holding the car is purely mechanical with no electrical input.…

Surely it would have to be, or what might happen if the battery flattened ? :-)

Electric handbrakes - bathtub tom
I’ve never taken one apart, but I’d assume that the mechanism for holding the car is purely mechanical with no electrical input.…

Surely it would have to be, or what might happen if the battery flattened ? :-)

If the brake was on, you wouldn't be able to release it. As I found out when a stupid driver who knew they had a failing battery parked behind me, blocking me in until someone came along with jump leads!

Electric handbrakes - Andrew-T

<< If the brake was on, you wouldn't be able to release it. >>

Ah, so clearly it has to be a traditional ratchet system, but operated electrically. A major advance.

Electric handbrakes - RT

<< If the brake was on, you wouldn't be able to release it. >>

Ah, so clearly it has to be a traditional ratchet system, but operated electrically. A major advance.

On my VW Touareg it's simply a mechanically operated parking brake with an electric motor which winds it on or off, dep[ending on whether the switch is pulled up or pushed down - in the event of battery failure the parking brake will stay in the same position, just as it does when the ignition is switched off.

Electric handbrakes - Heidfirst
I’ve never taken one apart, but I’d assume that the mechanism for holding the car is purely mechanical with no electrical input.…

Surely it would have to be, or what might happen if the battery flattened ? :-)

If the brake was on, you wouldn't be able to release it. As I found out when a stupid driver who knew they had a failing battery parked behind me, blocking me in until someone came along with jump leads!

My Toyota Avensis T27s (have/had 2) both came with a tool that you can use via the boot floor to release

Electric handbrakes - bathtub tom

My Toyota Avensis T27s (have/had 2) both came with a tool that you can use via the boot floor to release

But if someone was blocking you in, who was too ignorant to RTFM, it don't help!