Toyota, Mazda & Honda are "looking into matters"

Snippets I have seen, but no real details

Toyota & Daihatsu have suspended production on some models - potential safety concerns on a few current models and some older cars going back years

Mazda MX5 and some other model looking into "brake issues"

Honda "safety concerns"

I think you will find all testing that was done on all motors was above and beyond what has been specified, so there are no safety concerns with any cars as maximum spec is minimum to these car companies- amazing how things get twisted

So the test where they deployed the airbags with a timer rather than the actual sensors is not a safety concern?

You make it sound as though they only do one test of safety critical hardware, I would be very very surprised if that was the case. and, I don`t believe all I read though it seems a lot do.

afaia most companies mentioned actually do more safety testing going far beyond what they need to....but I do not know the facts only whats been reported and don`t assume anything

You make it sound as though they only do one test of safety critical hardware, I would be very very surprised if that was the case. and, I don`t believe all I read though it seems a lot do.

afaia most companies mentioned actually do more safety testing going far beyond what they need to....but I do not know the facts only whats been reported and don`t assume anything

I was pointing out to you one case where they did some bad testing when it's a safety related thing - you said there were not safety concerns....if there were no concerns then why not do it properly rather than a bodge?

Is it bad testing though?. I don't recall saying it isn't, but then aren't computerised timers used to check the sensors work within a timers tolerance ie the sensor reacts inside a few milliseconds

I was under the impression testing has to be done in a certain way.???

I was under the impression testing has to be done in a certain way.???

It does and it wasn't.

Its odd, as from what I have read about testing, all these car companies have to test in a certain way and to cover themselves for all countries they sell to, test to beyond the specifications asked for, I see no reason why they should miss tests that they have to do in order to save time and money.

whatever people believe is up to them and if proof rather than speculation has been given then fair enough, I have doubts though of it happening IMO...

What I find strange is reports I read state testing goes beyond what the specs ask of the maker safety wise, and the complaints were that testing wasn't done to spec.

which if the tests are done slightly different but are stricter than spec which I read, it makes the cars safer than standard, which I gather is what the so called problem was.

If The Chairman apologised which I gather all involved did the only wrong doing they did was testing above normal standards, ie, all cars were safer than the standard tests made them out to be.

I was under the impression that was the problem NOT skipping tests