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Ssangyong Any - Ssangyong no more… - mcb100
The brand name Ssangyong has disappeared, they’re now KGM.

www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/kgm/torres?fbclid=IwA...k
Ssangyong Any - Ssangyong no more… - Chris M

Catchy!

In the same way as BYD.

Edited by Chris M on 07/03/2024 at 08:52

Ssangyong Any - Ssangyong no more… - John F

Catchy!

In the same way as BYD.

Hardly. Beyond Your Dreams conjures up thoughts of joyful ecstasy. KG Mobility Corporation brings to mind a decrepit old pensioner in a vehicle which appears to have been beaten with an ugly stick before leaving the production line.

Ssangyong Any - Ssangyong no more… - Bilboman

What a ghastly car. 33 mpg is atrocious, and as to some of the styling cues... What's with the huge silver panel spreading rearwards from the C-pillar, as if the slightest rearward vision would totally ruin the image? Something about lipstick and pigs here, methinks.

Ssangyong Any - Ssangyong no more… - Adampr

Ssangyong, sorry, KGM have always specialised in spectacularly ugly cars. If they paid a designer half what they probably.just paid a 'branding guru' to change their name, I feel.like they would have achieved more success.

Ssangyong Any - Ssangyong no more… - Orb>>

I have had the Korando for 2 years and a bit.

Styling is absolutely fine with me.

It's roomy for the two of us and Blodwen.

It's still as comfy as ever. It does what it says on the tin, something different and reliable which is what we want.

Economy on a run can get 40 mpg

Plus a very good dealer close by.

Tastes are different.

I won't say no to a Torres but the price is the problem!

Ssangyong Any - Ssangyong no more… - gordonbennet

Compared to the goppingly awful looking SUVs being churned our my messrs rolls bentley audi bmw with multiple others copying, all striving for the most vile looking vehicles imaginable, the Ssangyong offering in the link looks quite decent.

Rebranding didn't do Datsun any harm, sometimes company names just don't sit right years later, who'd want a Talbot badge on their new car?

Ssangyong Any - Ssangyong no more… - elhacko

Not Talbot, certainly, but how about Sunbeam? Am in Spring mode.

Ssangyong Any - Ssangyong no more… - Orb>>

The name has changed to KGM, but the badge,"stylised 2 dragons" is exactly the change.

Oh and they have dropped the "base" model.

Ssangyong Any - Ssangyong no more… - Andrew-T

Oh and they have dropped the "base" model.

So there is now a 'new' base model ?

Ssangyong Any - Ssangyong no more… - Terry W

KGM is short for "KG Mobility Corporation" - a Korean based car manufacturer.

Possibly not the best branding for the UK where the word "mobility" is often associated with transport for the disabled (think scooters, mobility cars etc). Possibly no worse than BYD - "build your dream".

There seems a bit of a gulf between Asian and UK culture!

Ssangyong Any - Ssangyong no more… - movilogo

At least I can be confident in spelling them now :-)

Nobody noticed them before and nobody will notice them now.

I did think of buying Korando over Sportage. Features were good but fuel economy was much worse and was worried about resale value. I believe they also reduced warranty terms from 7 to 5 years which didn't inspire confidence.

Ssangyong Any - Ssangyong no more… - Orb>>

I did think of buying Korando over Sportage. Features were good but fuel economy was much worse and was worried about resale value. I believe they also reduced warranty terms from 7 to 5 years which didn't inspire confidence.

I can confirm that urban MPG is poor. If you are going to use any heavy SEV for urban work that's what you'll get

2.5 ton Rangerover with the 6 cyl ingenium anyone ?

Ssangyong Any - Ssangyong no more… - badbusdriver

Beyond Your Dreams conjures up thoughts of joyful ecstasy.

Well that is certainly one opinion. Mine would be pretentious twaddle of the highest order!

KG Mobility Corporation brings to mind a decrepit old pensioner

If you were to do a study of BMW owners, how many do you reckon know (or care) what the letters stand for?. My guess would be no more than 20%.

What's with the huge silver panel spreading rearwards from the C-pillar, as if the slightest rearward vision would totally ruin the image? Something about lipstick and pigs here, methinks.

If you choose white (like most SUV owners it seems) or (especially) silver, it isn't that noticeable. Though looking at pictures, it seems there may be an option to have the panel in different contrasting colours. Which also means it may be possible to have it body coloured. As for the visibility, no idea what you are on about?. The only potential problem I see with it would be if the driver was looking over their left shoulder at an angled junction. In that case, it is no more of a problem than any and every double cab pickup with canopy (not to mention the LR Defender 110), and much less of a problem than in every (single cab) van.

Ssangyong, sorry, KGM have always specialised in spectacularly ugly cars. If they paid a designer half what they probably.just paid a 'branding guru' to change their name, I feel.like they would have achieved more success.

Actually, there's only been been the one (and that was acceptable on account of the vast interior space and low price). But just like Lancia and rust, people's memories are long!.

I believe they also reduced warranty terms from 7 to 5 years which didn't inspire confidence.

The warranty you get on a new Audi, BMW or Mercedes is 4 years/50k miles. Ssangyong/KGM warranty is 5 years/100k miles.

The Torres isn't my cup of tea, but its looks are a lot less objectionable than many. The MPG is admittedly poor, but that isn't going to be a problem if you don't do a lot of miles. What it does have is a massive boot, bigger (in capacity) than a Skoda Superb estate. The main problem as I see it is the price being too high for what it is. Skoda Kodiaq has a similar sized boot (with third row seats folded), costs about the same*, will be more efficient, and is a "known" brand.

*The Torres is auto only, cheapest Kodiaq would be a manual.

Ssangyong Any - Ssangyong no more… - Adampr

Ssangyong, sorry, KGM have always specialised in spectacularly ugly cars. If they paid a designer half what they probably.just paid a 'branding guru' to change their name, I feel.like they would have achieved more success.

Actually, there's only been been the one (and that was acceptable on account of the vast interior space and low price). But just like Lancia and rust, people's memories are long!.

In the eye of the beholder and all that. I presume you're talking about the Radius but they're yet to produce a car that doesn't look dreadful in my opinion. First generation (in the UK. I think it was actually 2nd gen) Korando was particularly egregious. The current Tivoli and Korando are a big improvement, but I will couldn't bring myself to pay money for one.

Edited by Adampr on 10/03/2024 at 11:42

Ssangyong Any - Ssangyong no more… - Metropolis.
I am surprised to see them criticising the Aisin gearbox, i believe it also used in some Lexus models and a host of other brands too. Sometimes it can be driver input that is the problem with auto boxes, for example I remember on a diesel Land Rover some time ago (4 speed ZF auto) if you gave it too much throttle it would rev a lot in order to pick up speed, but if you eased off slightly you would get more of a lock up in the torque converter and you could accelerate at the same rate with much lower revs. Many didn’t realise this and kept booting it. Then again, these reviewers probably prefer a DCT..

Not sure why some (most) brands cant manage a soft ride, pity.
Ssangyong Any - Ssangyong no more… - badbusdriver

Not sure why some (most) brands cant manage a soft ride, pity.

I think the blame for that can be placed in two areas.

First, the fad for enormous wheels on ultra low profile tyres (not sure what wheel/tyre combo the Torres tested was fitted with, but I'd expect it to be a top of the range model and so probably the biggest wheels with lowest profile tyres).

Second is the motoring press's obsession with handling and "sportiness", resulting in manufacturers feeling obliged to fit stiffer suspension than is actually needed. The best of both worlds (in theory) can be achieved using adaptive suspension, but that of course means more complication (things to do wrong!) and more money.

Ssangyong Any - Ssangyong no more… - RT

Not sure why some (most) brands cant manage a soft ride, pity.

I think the blame for that can be placed in two areas.

First, the fad for enormous wheels on ultra low profile tyres (not sure what wheel/tyre combo the Torres tested was fitted with, but I'd expect it to be a top of the range model and so probably the biggest wheels with lowest profile tyres).

Second is the motoring press's obsession with handling and "sportiness", resulting in manufacturers feeling obliged to fit stiffer suspension than is actually needed. The best of both worlds (in theory) can be achieved using adaptive suspension, but that of course means more complication (things to do wrong!) and more money.

Back in the day, different country markets demanded different suspension settings - the original '60s Ford Escort had 4 different suspension specifications - France needed soft comfortable spring/damper settings - Germany needed firmer suspension - Italy had very firm, rally-style suspension with the UK in between French and German - all the other national markets aligned with one of those 4.

Nowadays manufacturers seem to just use on global compromise setting.

Ssangyong Any - Ssangyong no more… - badbusdriver

Not sure why some (most) brands cant manage a soft ride, pity.

I think the blame for that can be placed in two areas.

First, the fad for enormous wheels on ultra low profile tyres (not sure what wheel/tyre combo the Torres tested was fitted with, but I'd expect it to be a top of the range model and so probably the biggest wheels with lowest profile tyres).

Second is the motoring press's obsession with handling and "sportiness", resulting in manufacturers feeling obliged to fit stiffer suspension than is actually needed. The best of both worlds (in theory) can be achieved using adaptive suspension, but that of course means more complication (things to do wrong!) and more money.

Back in the day, different country markets demanded different suspension settings - the original '60s Ford Escort had 4 different suspension specifications - France needed soft comfortable spring/damper settings - Germany needed firmer suspension - Italy had very firm, rally-style suspension with the UK in between French and German - all the other national markets aligned with one of those 4.

Nowadays manufacturers seem to just use on global compromise setting.

I'll take the French settings, thanks very much!

:-)