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Nissan Juke versus Toyota Aygo - Mich52

Hi. It's time now to update my 16 yo Citroen C1. I've fallen in love with both the cars above (subject box). However, which is the cheapest to run? Are the wheels on the Juke pricier than the wheels on the Aygo, for example, if I ever needed to replace them. To me, the Juke wheels look massive. I've never had a big car before and I need something with a bigger boot too. I like the look of the Aygo as it's seems very stylish. Thank you!

Nissan Juke versus Toyota Aygo - mcb100
You’re comparing two different sizes of cars - Juke is comfortably larger than the Aygo. If you need a bigger boot than your C1, I doubt you’ll find it in an Aygo.

When you say wheels, do you mean tyres?
Nissan Juke versus Toyota Aygo - Mich52

Yes. Are the tyres pricier to replace than tyres on an Aygo, if need be?

Nissan Juke versus Toyota Aygo - catsdad

It will probably vary by spec. You could go onto Autotrader and find an example of each car at the spec you want. Put the registration numbers into a tyre site (Blackcircles for example) and you will find comparative prices.

Nissan Juke versus Toyota Aygo - Mich52

Thank you very much so far, people.

Nissan Juke versus Toyota Aygo - elekie&a/c doctor
If you’re looking for reliability, then the car in front, is a Toyota.
Nissan Juke versus Toyota Aygo - badbusdriver

The Citroen C1 and Toyota are two of a trio using the same structure, floorpan and all mechanical parts, the other being the Peugeot 107/108. Generally reliable, fun and nippy, but small.

The Juke, while quite cramped inside, is about half a meter longer. But they are not known for being particularly reliable. Different trim levels are going to have different sized tyres and in general, the larger the diameter, the higher the price. There will be lower spec models with tyres of a more modest size. these are much more sensible because not only will the car have a better ride, the won't be as vulnerable to potholes, they will cost less to replace, and they will be result in (slightly) better economy.

Between the two, I'd take the Aygo assuming it is big enough for your needs. Cheaper to run and more reliable.

Edited by badbusdriver on 11/12/2023 at 11:41

Nissan Juke versus Toyota Aygo - Mich52

Thank you, badbusdriver! I really appreciate that.

Nissan Juke versus Toyota Aygo - nellyjak

I agree with BBD...if it's big enough for you, then it's the Aygo (or a Toyota) every time.

Nissan Juke versus Toyota Aygo - badbusdriver

Just noticed the bit in your first post saying you need a bigger boot. That being the case, I'm surprised at you considering an Aygo, which has a boot of more or less the same size as your C1.

So a couple of questions, what is your budget and how big a boot do you need?. I'm also wondering what you need a bigger boot for (If it is for a dog, something with a low loading lip and boot floor would be better for it to get in and out)?

Edited by badbusdriver on 11/12/2023 at 11:58

Nissan Juke versus Toyota Aygo - Mich52

Hi BBD. My budget is 12k max. I often take trips away and like to take my cat too with one other person. I find at times the boot too small in my C1 for this reason, but I love the look of the Aygo and its renowned reliability. I also like the look of the new style Nissan Micra but each time I speak to people they always say choose Toyota over Nissan. I will compromise the boot space for the Aygo if I know it's the best one to get.

Nissan Juke versus Toyota Aygo - mcb100
Why not, then, stick with Toyota but have a look at a Yaris?
Nissan Juke versus Toyota Aygo - Mich52

I could try, yes. I find the Yaris doesn't look as trendy as the Aygo though.

Nissan Juke versus Toyota Aygo - badbusdriver

£12k is enough to get into a Toyota C-HR and I'd imagine, if you like the looks of the Juke, you'd probably like the C-HR too?

There won't be a huge selection at that price, and you'd probably be looking at the 1.2 turbo rather than hybrid. While not massive, it is a bigger car than the Juke. But the main thing would be that Toyota reliability along with a similar style to the Juke.

Sticking with a small SUV/Crossover, you could also consider the very reliable Mazda CX3 (petrol). Also reliable but of a more upright and boxy shape, the Suzuki Vitara. Another Suzuki, the SX4 S-Cross is the less boxy, slightly less tall and has a bigger boot. Something else you could consider is the Kia Soul which, if bought from a main dealer, could have a year or two left of the 7 year warranty it came with when new!.

Nissan Juke versus Toyota Aygo - Mich52

I'm so grateful for your help. It's good to know I can look these up and compare. Thanks again :-)

Nissan Juke versus Toyota Aygo - Tester

'... you'd probably be looking at the 1.2 turbo rather than hybrid.'

No arguments with your greater knowledge of the market, BBD, but just wanted to reassure the OP that, from my experience of it in my 8-year-old Auris, there's not much wrong with the 1.2T engine! It's very smooth and quiet, with decent torque, and I get real economy above 50 mpg on mixed driving in the summer (obviously less, in low to mid-40s, in the cold weather) -- so pretty close to hybrid fuel economy. And of course (not wishing to tempt fate), being a Toyota, it has never given the slightest trouble. Doesn't even consume oil, which seems to be considered normal for some cars.

Nissan Juke versus Toyota Aygo - badbusdriver

'... you'd probably be looking at the 1.2 turbo rather than hybrid.'

No arguments with your greater knowledge of the market, BBD, but just wanted to reassure the OP that, from my experience of it in my 8-year-old Auris, there's not much wrong with the 1.2T engine! It's very smooth and quiet, with decent torque, and I get real economy above 50 mpg on mixed driving in the summer (obviously less, in low to mid-40s, in the cold weather) -- so pretty close to hybrid fuel economy. And of course (not wishing to tempt fate), being a Toyota, it has never given the slightest trouble. Doesn't even consume oil, which seems to be considered normal for some cars.

Didn't realise I was implying there was anything wrong with it?.

I was merely stating that the 1.2t was (just) within the OP's budget but the hybrid wasn't (unless bigger miles and/or ins write off)

Edited by badbusdriver on 12/12/2023 at 09:35

Nissan Juke versus Toyota Aygo - Tester

'... you'd probably be looking at the 1.2 turbo rather than hybrid.'

No arguments with your greater knowledge of the market, BBD, but just wanted to reassure the OP that, from my experience of it in my 8-year-old Auris, there's not much wrong with the 1.2T engine! It's very smooth and quiet, with decent torque, and I get real economy above 50 mpg on mixed driving in the summer (obviously less, in low to mid-40s, in the cold weather) -- so pretty close to hybrid fuel economy. And of course (not wishing to tempt fate), being a Toyota, it has never given the slightest trouble. Doesn't even consume oil, which seems to be considered normal for some cars.

Didn't realise I was implying there was anything wrong with it?.

I was merely stating that the 1.2t was (just) within the OP's budget but the hybrid wasn't (unless bigger miles and/or ins write off)

Didn't mean to suggest that you were implying such a thing! I know that you are a regular and respected contributor here, with wide knowledge of motoring -- wider than mine, I'm sure. It's a problem with this sort of communication, isn't it, that one taps out something thinking it says one thing, and it can be read differently by someone else. Sigh!

No, was only meaning to second your suggestion and add my two penn'orth from experience, that the OP would probably find the C-HR with that engine a very pleasant experience.

All the best,

Tester

Nissan Juke versus Toyota Aygo - Heidfirst

Or even an Auris/Corolla (the new Corolla was a significant improvement over te Auris but willbe dearer/higher mileage for the same price)?

& don't forget that with dealer servicing a Toyota can be kept in warranty for 10 years/100k mies - do Nissan do similar?

Nissan Juke versus Toyota Aygo - Mich52

Very true!

Nissan Juke versus Toyota Aygo - badbusdriver

I've been working on the assumption that the Aygo you were looking at was the last of the previous shape. But having had a look on Autotrader, I see that £12k is just enough to get into its replacement, the Aygo X. If this is what you meant anyway, fair enough, I have no doubt it will prove a reliable (if slightly lethargic) steed. But if you hadn't been considering the Aygo X, maybe you should do.

Full disclosure first, there are only two sub £12k examples on Autotrader(!), but if you were able to push that budget up by another grand, there are 65 nationwide to choose from. With the new car, Toyota has given it the vibe of a tiny Crossover/SUV, being taller with the obligatory chunky black wheel arch trim. They also decided that it needed a bigger boot (rather than more rear seat space), so it may fit your needs better. It isn't huge by any stretch, but 230 litres is nearly 100 more than your C1 and just under 60 more than the last of the old shape Aygo.

Nissan Juke versus Toyota Aygo - Mich52

Awww.....thank you, BBD. I really appreciate your thoughts and advice. Nice of you.

Yes, I've seen the new Aygo X. I wonder if I were to see one at a proper dealer, I could knock them down a grand if it was for sale for £13k for example? I'm a cash (well, credit card) buyer who is an NHS worker and wonder if because of these I'll get any discount?

Nissan Juke versus Toyota Aygo - mcb100
You’re in the weakest position possible, unfortunately, not taking any form of finance from a dealer and potentially not having a part exchange that the dealer could then retail on their forecourt.
You’d be in with a chance of an NHS discount with a new car, but you’d be hard pushed to get money off used.
Do the NHS trust you work for not offer a salary sacrifice scheme that’d get you into a brand new car for probably less than you’d expect to pay?
Nissan Juke versus Toyota Aygo - Mr Mc

Salary sacrifice not great for any job with a defined benefit pension scheme based on salary. Short term gain, long term pain !!

Nissan Juke versus Toyota Aygo - badbusdriver

Awww.....thank you, BBD. I really appreciate your thoughts and advice. Nice of you.

Yes, I've seen the new Aygo X. I wonder if I were to see one at a proper dealer, I could knock them down a grand if it was for sale for £13k for example? I'm a cash (well, credit card) buyer who is an NHS worker and wonder if because of these I'll get any discount?

Some dealers definitely will give a discount for NHS workers, but I don't know all the ones who do. or what that discount would be.

Nissan Juke versus Toyota Aygo - Engineer Andy

Hi. It's time now to update my 16 yo Citroen C1. I've fallen in love with both the cars above (subject box). However, which is the cheapest to run? Are the wheels on the Juke pricier than the wheels on the Aygo, for example, if I ever needed to replace them. To me, the Juke wheels look massive. I've never had a big car before and I need something with a bigger boot too. I like the look of the Aygo as it's seems very stylish. Thank you!

Bear in mind that the price of tyres is only partially related to the internal diameter (in inches). A big factor, other than the speed rating letter and the tyre type (summer r[cheapest], winter/all-season or specialist off-roader, etc) is how common it is.

For example, the following two are quite similar in size - 205/55 R16V and 205/60 R16V. For a decent make summer tyre, the former is likely to currently cost around the £75 mark (plus fitting), the latter probably nearer to £110 each. Another similar one to the latter is 195/65 R15, and will probably cost around £60 - £65 each.

The cheaper two are far more common because they were the standard fit amongst many Fiesta and Focus sized cars and the 15in tyre for many small car vans made in the 2000s and 2010s, thus supply and demand means lots of them about and competition between makes.

The 205/60 R16 tyre is much less common (not rare by any means), and from what I've seen probably about a 5th of the cars given them as OEMs as the other two.

Unfortunately, these days, many car makes don't go in much for standardisation with competitors and often give their cars slightly different tyre sizes, or as often is the case over the last 10 years, larger diameter. low profile tyres as standard fit, even on relatively average specced cars for performance.

Some car makes - e.g. KIA, at least on their non-electric cars, still appear to go for those 'standard-size' tyres (for example on the mid-lower spec Ceeds). Others will go with quite rare sizes, and you can end up having to spend around £150+ each to replace them.

The other issue today is that low profile tyres don't last as long as mid profile (50-55) and higher (60+) profile tyres, are more susceptible to damage from potholes, etc, are noisier and give a much firmer ride, putting more strain in the suspension parts, which will then wear quicker and cost more over the life of the car.

The only real upside is that they grip better, except in really poor conditions (aquaplaning, snow and ice), and look stylish. Many people part exchange their car (losing lots of money in the process) or occasionally spend a lot on downsizing the wheels and tyres (if that's even possible - with many, you can't due to the size of the brakes) because they get fed up with the hard ride from low profile tyres.

You might find that a lower or mid-spec Juke has smaller wheels and tyres, which won't give much handling penalty, given the car is hardly a sports car.

You might want to consider cars of the supermini size if you need a bigger boot than the C1. Depends also whether you're budget stretches to new or second hand. How big a boot do you need (for what)?

Nissan Juke versus Toyota Aygo - Mich52

Thank you, Engineer Andy.