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Advice about diesel Vs petrol please - Nopaddle
Hi, I’m a self employed dog walker looking for a replacement for my van which was unfortunately written off last week after someone ran into the back of it. Budget approx £8k.

I’m aware some people in similar professions have had issues with clogged DPF diesel filters. Some of them seem to have had to spend £2-3k to sort these issues and still have ongoing problems. Many of us drive quite short distances to pick up and drop off say 4 dogs from houses in quick succession and by nature of carrying dogs we tend to drive relatively slowly. That is my pattern every week day plus longer faster journeys some evenings and weekends.

I’m wondering if I’m asking for trouble with a vehicle with a diesel DPF filter, but from what I can gather it’s a universal thing in vehicles built after about 2015. So it seems maybe I can’t avoid it?

So, I’m thinking maybe a petrol vehicle may be better. But unfortunately all this is new to me, and I’m not sure what to do for the best?

I drive about 120 miles per week.

Thank you
Advice about diesel Vs petrol please - Bromptonaut

Petrol would probably be the consensus given usage and miles you do.

Whether you'll find a petrol van easily is another question.

Would an estate car fit the bill as an alternative?

Advice about diesel Vs petrol please - elekie&a/c doctor
At 120 MPW , diesels are a no no . Find a petrol Renault/ Peugeot/ Citroen kangoo - partner type vehicle. Petrol models of these are out there .
Advice about diesel Vs petrol please - SLO76
If it has to be a van then it’ll almost certainly have to be a diesel and it’ll have a DPF. If you’ve a good local VW specialist nearby a VW Caddy 2.0 TDi may be a worthwhile option, a good knowledgeable specialist can keep these sweet without too much hassle. The more plentiful 1.6 diesels suffer DPF and EGR valve issues more than the 2.0 for some reason but again a good specialist can keep it going. The only issue is that prices have gone completely mad and £8k won’t buy much today.

If you could find a solid well cared for older 2.0 SDi Caddy it would be worth buying and spending a bit of money tidying up. These have no DPF and no turbo, they’ll run and run and they’re very decent on fuel. I had one for years without any trouble. Rust would be the biggest concern here.

The big problem with buying a used van is that firms typically don’t get rid of them until they’re no longer economically viable, In other words they’re knackered. They don’t just change for the sake of it and thus most used vans will have some expensive problem. The exceptions to this are ex lease but these will be more expensive (typically under 4yrs old) or ex BT/NHS vehicles, but again you’d need more money. Mine was an ex NHS van and ran without issue for years.


A neighbour or mine runs a dog walking business and had a similar dilemma a few years ago, to which I discouraged him from buying a used diesel van. He looked at petrol Berlingo’s but again was put off by my negativity regarding engine failures on the 1.6 VTi and 1.2 petrols and so he bought a very nice Skoda Yeti 1.2 TSi with the later belt driven engine which hasn’t given any grief at all. The only issue is that it’s too small in the back as far as I’m concerned for the dogs cages. Maybe a large petrol estate like a Toyota Avensis 1.8 or a Mazda 6 2.0 Skyactiv would do the job?

Edited by SLO76 on 09/10/2023 at 12:34

Advice about diesel Vs petrol please - corax
If it has to be a van then it’ll almost certainly have to be a diesel and it’ll have a DPF. If you’ve a good local VW specialist nearby a VW Caddy 2.0 TDi may be a worthwhile option, a good knowledgeable specialist can keep these sweet without too much hassle. The more plentiful 1.6 diesels suffer DPF and EGR valve issues

And injector issues as the mileage runs up, which again the 2.0 doesn't seem to suffer from. £1000 at least to replace a set.

Advice about diesel Vs petrol please - Ian_SW

If you're only doing about 25 miles a day and don't need to use the van for long journeys at all, another option would be an early electric van. 2015 examples of both the Nissan E-NV200 and the Renault Kangoo ZE are within budget.

These are effectively a van body with the electric running gear from a similarly aged Nissan Leaf or Renault Zoe. The range will be terrible - probably no more than 75 miles on a good day, but for purely local use could be a cheap to run option provided you can charge at home overnight.

Advice about diesel Vs petrol please - Chris M

We have a number of one man/woman band dog walking outfits locally and one business that has flourished over the last 15 years or so. All seems to use diesel Berlingos with the successful business having a fleet of them in a non standard colour and mostly private plates related to the name of the company, so difficult to immediately spot the age, but they are not purchased new. Probably mostly 5-10 years old. Can't imagine they'd stick with them if they were that unreliable.

Advice about diesel Vs petrol please - Gibbo_Wirral

We have a number of one man/woman band dog walking outfits locally and one business that has flourished over the last 15 years or so. All seems to use diesel Berlingos with the successful business having a fleet of them in a non standard colour and mostly private plates related to the name of the company, so difficult to immediately spot the age, but they are not purchased new. Probably mostly 5-10 years old. Can't imagine they'd stick with them if they were that unreliable.

Same with Euro Car parts, they use Berlingos or Pug Partners. Ditto Post Office.

Advice about diesel Vs petrol please - gordonbennet

Same with Euro Car parts, they use Berlingos or Pug Partners. Ditto Post Office.

Re the Post Office vans, back in the day we used to deliver new vans to PO among others when DPF equipped vans were becoming a thing.

The talk at the PO workshops where we delivered was that similar to large trucks these vans were equipped to be able to perform driver controlled static regens if needed, presumably the PO in trials found such a thing needed and with the buying power to get what they wanted.

Be interested to know if this was a thing and if it worked as planned, i know Toyota with their full siize 4x4's came up with similar driver controllable regen switching maybe 3 or 4 years ago...amazingly receiving criticism for their trouble instead of due appreciation, had i a later version with DPF i'd be very glad of the extra programming.

Advice about diesel Vs petrol please - Chris M

Re Royal Mail. Most of the postie delivery vehicles locally are 10 - 14 plate Peugeot Partners with a couple of slightly older VX Combos. Generally a bit tatty but generally around 50k miles. We're about 3 miles from the delivery office, the van (with two posties) parks up whilst the they split up to do a portion of the round, then it moves on 1/4 mile and they do the same again. I doubt the van ever warms up, especially in winter. Not generally what's recommended use for a diesel.

Advice about diesel Vs petrol please - corax

Re Royal Mail. Most of the postie delivery vehicles locally are 10 - 14 plate Peugeot Partners with a couple of slightly older VX Combos. Generally a bit tatty but generally around 50k miles. We're about 3 miles from the delivery office, the van (with two posties) parks up whilst the they split up to do a portion of the round, then it moves on 1/4 mile and they do the same again. I doubt the van ever warms up, especially in winter. Not generally what's recommended use for a diesel.

Think I'll ask my local posties about this next time I see them.

Advice about diesel Vs petrol please - corax
Maybe a large petrol estate like a Toyota Avensis 1.8 or a Mazda 6 2.0 Skyactiv would do the job?

Or a Verso 1.8. A boxier car than the estates, but not big.

There are more options for petrol vans nowadays, but they are very recent and expensive. I wonder how much money has been wasted over the years repairing DPF vans that do mostly short runs.

Advice about diesel Vs petrol please - gordonbennet

The two dog walkers in our area run a Pug 206 estate and Skoda Superb estate respectively, the vehicles are now effectively two seaters, so long as you avoid the rather silly fashion type estates which are only glorified hatchbacks and look for estates with more squared off rear section once the rear seats are lowered (or even removed completely) they are suprisingly spacious.

Worth a search for ex police vehicles on ebay, you often find ex dog section estate cars being sold cheaply, already kitted out with well made crates, maybe possible to sub divide those crates to allow 3 or even 4 various size pooches to be carried.

Advice about diesel Vs petrol please - Miniman777
Daughters dog walkers in S London use a petrol Mokka for collection and delivery of several small to medium sized dogs.

Should be plenty of non-diesel options.
Advice about diesel Vs petrol please - Steveieb

We have a Vauxhall Astravan 55 Reg with the Isuzu diesel engine and no DPF. Simply brilliant on fuel and well known for long life. Built in the Opel factory in Germany so excellent build quality.

These fetch less than £2k at that age so depreciation is not a problem

Advice about diesel Vs petrol please - daveyK_UK
Local dog walker uses the XL (longer) version of the Vauxhall Combo Life on a 68 plate and its a 1.2 petrol.
Shes not cheap but seems to get lots of business and the Combo Life is in use every day.