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Tesla? - The largest EV charging station in the world. - focussed

The Harris Ranch Tesla Supercharger station is an impressive beast. With 98 charging bays, the facility in Coalinga, California, is the largest charging station in the world. But to provide that kind of power takes something solar can’t provide — diesel generators.

Investigative journalist Edward Niedermeyer discovered that the station was powered by diesel generators hidden behind a Shell station. Reporters at SF Gate tried to find out how much of the station's electricity was from the generators, but couldn’t get a response from Tesla.

cowboystatedaily.com/2023/09/30/largest-ev-chargin.../

Tesla? - The largest EV charging station in the world. - Bolt

The Harris Ranch Tesla Supercharger station is an impressive beast. With 98 charging bays, the facility in Coalinga, California, is the largest charging station in the world. But to provide that kind of power takes something solar can’t provide — diesel generators.

Investigative journalist Edward Niedermeyer discovered that the station was powered by diesel generators hidden behind a Shell station. Reporters at SF Gate tried to find out how much of the station's electricity was from the generators, but couldn’t get a response from Tesla.

cowboystatedaily.com/2023/09/30/largest-ev-chargin.../

There were reports of other sites having these but they have been taken down, wonder why?

some apparently installed because the grid isn`t capable of charging all charging stations at once, allegedly, though only 36 charging points, makes you wonder!

Tesla? - The largest EV charging station in the world. - Sofa Spud

Presumably the intention is to run the charging station on renewably sourced electricity eventually and the diesel generators are a temporary measure.

Interestingly there was back-to-back economy test of a A Volvo V70 diesel and Tesla Model S charged by a static diesel generator. It was a fairly controlled test and both vehicles did the same test route.

The anticipated result was that the Tesla would "use" more diesel than the Volvo but it actually used slightly less. This was probably because of two things. Firstly the diesel generator was running at a constant, optimum speed, maximising its efficiency. And secondly, the Tesla had regenerative braking, that recovered 15-20 % of the energy used in driving.

There was a video of this on youtube a few years ago.

Edited by Sofa Spud on 04/10/2023 at 08:06

Tesla? - The largest EV charging station in the world. - bathtub tom
the Tesla had regenerative braking, that recovered 15-20 % of the energy used in driving.

Would that mean the average driver 'wastes' 15-20% of fuel on braking?

Tesla? - The largest EV charging station in the world. - kiss (keep it simple)

Would that mean the average driver 'wastes' 15-20% of fuel on braking?

I guess it would. If you consider how much better fuel economy is at a constant speed, compared to stop-start driving, then it makes sense. Of course, on a motorway regenerative braking does nothing (until you hit traffic and have to slow down)

Tesla? - The largest EV charging station in the world. - mcb100
It’s an old story (2015) regularly trotted out by climate change denying outlets like the Cowboy State Daily.
What we don’t know is the percentage of power going into the Teslas that charge there is from a primary source (solar, wind) and how much is from the generator.
All Tesla themselves say is that the charge station uses the same mix of renewables/non renewables as that of the US grid as a whole.
What would be interesting would be to see a co2 per mile figure for those Teslas charging with the possible assistance of fossil fuels versus the same figure for those refuelling at the adjacent Shell fuel station.
I suspect I know where my money would go as to which would be the lowest.
Tesla? - The largest EV charging station in the world. - mcb100
The largest charging station in the world now is, incidentally, in Shenzhen, China.
It’s a collaboration between Shell and BYD and boasts 258 chargers, as well as solar arrays to generate 300,000 kWh of electricity annually.